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AxeD wrote:

outbound wrote:I've been obsessed with tech'y kinda stuff atm and finally managed to get a demo track down just trying out different techniques.

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It's a lot on the minimal side with a lot of automation doing the majority of the variation. For those interested here's a few things I did to get the sound:-

- The percussion (bongos etc) were played in through a sampler and then bounced to audio, parallel filtered through several different plugins and then bounced down again. (They must have gone through at least 8 different filters doing different things by the end of it.

- The kick is being sent to a delay which is being sidechained to the kick with another filter on it (this is automated into the intro by volume)

- Several delays and reverbs are automated through on the percussion and lead arpeggio thing.

- Bass was very simple, coupla squares sent to filters and distortion etc.

- A lot of sidechaining to everything, some things (like bass were sidechained harder with the lead instruments being compressed only slightly.

- The track I find to getting a grittier sound is using lots of layers of subtle filtering and distortion to make things sound more analogue.

- Oh yeah Chorus on the percussion as well, that seemed to help quite a bit.

- Having my sounds too clinical I've been told is one of my bigger weaknesses so focussing quite a bit on sorting this atm. Hopefully there's something in there for people who suffer the same problem.

Had a listen, nice tune. Not that into the Nathan Fakey sound myself but it's quality production.

At the risk of sounding ignorant... who?

That sounds great imo, nice mix of Dubstep atmospheres/sounds and techno.

outbound wrote:

AxeD wrote:

outbound wrote:I've been obsessed with tech'y kinda stuff atm and finally managed to get a demo track down just trying out different techniques.

Soundcloud

It's a lot on the minimal side with a lot of automation doing the majority of the variation. For those interested here's a few things I did to get the sound:-

- The percussion (bongos etc) were played in through a sampler and then bounced to audio, parallel filtered through several different plugins and then bounced down again. (They must have gone through at least 8 different filters doing different things by the end of it.

- The kick is being sent to a delay which is being sidechained to the kick with another filter on it (this is automated into the intro by volume)

- Several delays and reverbs are automated through on the percussion and lead arpeggio thing.

- Bass was very simple, coupla squares sent to filters and distortion etc.

- A lot of sidechaining to everything, some things (like bass were sidechained harder with the lead instruments being compressed only slightly.

- The track I find to getting a grittier sound is using lots of layers of subtle filtering and distortion to make things sound more analogue.

- Oh yeah Chorus on the percussion as well, that seemed to help quite a bit.

- Having my sounds too clinical I've been told is one of my bigger weaknesses so focussing quite a bit on sorting this atm. Hopefully there's something in there for people who suffer the same problem.

Had a listen, nice tune. Not that into the Nathan Fakey sound myself but it's quality production.

At the risk of sounding ignorant... who?

Nathan Fake, a producer that AxeD thinks your tune sounds similar to haha

Any help picking this track apart, it's just so good.. The stabs / low percussion especially. Boddika is such don

outbound wrote:

AxeD wrote:

outbound wrote:I've been obsessed with tech'y kinda stuff atm and finally managed to get a demo track down just trying out different techniques.

Soundcloud

It's a lot on the minimal side with a lot of automation doing the majority of the variation. For those interested here's a few things I did to get the sound:-

- The percussion (bongos etc) were played in through a sampler and then bounced to audio, parallel filtered through several different plugins and then bounced down again. (They must have gone through at least 8 different filters doing different things by the end of it.

- The kick is being sent to a delay which is being sidechained to the kick with another filter on it (this is automated into the intro by volume)

- Several delays and reverbs are automated through on the percussion and lead arpeggio thing.

- Bass was very simple, coupla squares sent to filters and distortion etc.

- A lot of sidechaining to everything, some things (like bass were sidechained harder with the lead instruments being compressed only slightly.

- The track I find to getting a grittier sound is using lots of layers of subtle filtering and distortion to make things sound more analogue.

- Oh yeah Chorus on the percussion as well, that seemed to help quite a bit.

- Having my sounds too clinical I've been told is one of my bigger weaknesses so focussing quite a bit on sorting this atm. Hopefully there's something in there for people who suffer the same problem.

Had a listen, nice tune. Not that into the Nathan Fakey sound myself but it's quality production.

At the risk of sounding ignorant... who?

man he was very, very, very big some years ago (2005-2006) like all the others border community guys kinda neotrance / proto-techhouse.. l ove that style, check out early extrawelt (8000, zu fuss...)

he did a CM masterclass video a few years back too. im sure that will be floating around on YouTube, dunnow how useful it will be either

Does anyone have any ideas on the stab sound that comes in around the 1.00 mark.

I'm getting detuned squares and white noise but there's something missing...

skimpi wrote:

outbound wrote:

AxeD wrote:

outbound wrote:I've been obsessed with tech'y kinda stuff atm and finally managed to get a demo track down just trying out different techniques.

Soundcloud

It's a lot on the minimal side with a lot of automation doing the majority of the variation. For those interested here's a few things I did to get the sound:-

- The percussion (bongos etc) were played in through a sampler and then bounced to audio, parallel filtered through several different plugins and then bounced down again. (They must have gone through at least 8 different filters doing different things by the end of it.

- The kick is being sent to a delay which is being sidechained to the kick with another filter on it (this is automated into the intro by volume)

- Several delays and reverbs are automated through on the percussion and lead arpeggio thing.

- Bass was very simple, coupla squares sent to filters and distortion etc.

- A lot of sidechaining to everything, some things (like bass were sidechained harder with the lead instruments being compressed only slightly.

- The track I find to getting a grittier sound is using lots of layers of subtle filtering and distortion to make things sound more analogue.

- Oh yeah Chorus on the percussion as well, that seemed to help quite a bit.

- Having my sounds too clinical I've been told is one of my bigger weaknesses so focussing quite a bit on sorting this atm. Hopefully there's something in there for people who suffer the same problem.

Had a listen, nice tune. Not that into the Nathan Fakey sound myself but it's quality production.

At the risk of sounding ignorant... who?

Nathan Fake, a producer that AxeD thinks your tune sounds similar to haha

I do think it but that doesn't mean it's not a fact

Although that breathing lead is more of a Spektre sound.

rafaelrafael wrote:

Any help picking this track apart, it's just so good.. The stabs / low percussion especially. Boddika is such don

He only uses hardware just to let u know

tune I been working on on this tip

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would appreciate feedback, trying to push my production levels up

rafaelrafael wrote:

Any help picking this track apart, it's just so good.. The stabs / low percussion especially. Boddika is such don

I would guess the drums are som old Roland drum machine. Can be 909, 808, 707 or 606, for instance. Sounds like he's automating the sustain of the hats and shakers to increase the perceived intensity and energy through some parts of the track.

The stabs are pretty standard. Just a variation of the dub stab. You can find tutorials for them all over he net.
Should be either saw or square waves or a combination. Make a regular stab and link it to a low pass filter set to no attack, no sustain, 400-800 ms decay and 0-800ms release.
The amp envelope should have no attack, full sustain, and same decay and release as the filter. This is pretty much the way I start all my dub stabs before I experiment.

The rapid stab which plays the lower, kind of muffled sounds, sounds like it has a bit of attack on the filter. It's def band passed to get that hollow sounds. Try setting the bandpass filter to around 300-700 hz or somewhere close. It's also has a delay effect. Put it on a send or as an insert. If you set the delay as an insert, you may want to try to put in before the band pass filter in the effect chain, to really mold the initial stab with the delay. Add reverb to taste. Sounds like dark reverb though, and should therefore be relatively short to not make things muddy.

The other, less frequent, and brighter stab is not delayed. Would guess it's pure squarewaves to get that thin sound. It has a longer amp release and longer ADSR envelope on the low pass filter (although no filter attack). Band pass to around 700-1200 hz to and use a longer, brighter reverb setting to set it apart from the other stab.

Basically, what I want to know is what is going on with Sheds kick drums...



I have no idea where to start with the low end.

Drop_Dead wrote:Basically, what I want to know is what is going on with Sheds kick drums...



I have no idea where to start with the low end.

Reverb, like, get reverb from the kick, and then like EQ it, distort it maybe.

It's Jake by the way, from uni lol

theres some really good threads on mnml.nl about making berghain style techno ala dettmann/klock/shed etc. the advice can be applied to a lot of the ukbass/techno stuff aswell:

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=52477 - how to make berghain style techno

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php ... 0&start=13 - marcel dettmann style bass

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75547 - free techno sample pack and bass tips by dub techno producer mattias fridell - this thread is a goldmine for both the sample pack and the advice he gives!

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=65500 - kick with mono reverb trick for techno basslines - like the shed track posted above

skwiggo wrote:theres some really good threads on mnml.nl about making berghain style techno ala dettmann/klock/shed etc. the advice can be applied to a lot of the ukbass/techno stuff aswell:

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=52477 - how to make berghain style techno

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php ... 0&start=13 - marcel dettmann style bass

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=75547 - free techno sample pack and bass tips by dub techno producer mattias fridell - this thread is a goldmine for both the sample pack and the advice he gives!

http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=65500 - kick with mono reverb trick for techno basslines - like the shed track posted above

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ascent wrote:tune I been working on on this tip

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would appreciate feedback, trying to push my production levels up

Ezzz that is some nice vibe going on. I'd say the kick is something to work on, I know with this stuff the sounds are a bit more subtle but still think that kick could cut through a bit more, is it sidechain compressing anything else? even with tech it's nice to have it pumping subtly even if it isn't audible just to add to the feel.

What you lot reckon to this then? proper oldschool way of doing it, no computers, no edits, no autmation, live in one take, 909, x0xb0x, vermona drums, cheap effects, desk.

http://paradigmx.com/audio/vanishmix4.mp3

^ very nice, I have a hardware setup that I like to jam out on as well.

there's that guy... Kink? that has some live jam vids on YouTube, pretty cool stuff. in fact there are plenty of guys that have live jam vids around the place, but 99% are awful lol.

edit: here's Kink's channel http://www.youtube.com/user/kink303

Shum wrote:^ very nice, I have a hardware setup that I like to jam out on as well.

there's that guy... Kink? that has some live jam vids on YouTube, pretty cool stuff. in fact there are plenty of guys that have live jam vids around the place, but 99% are awful lol.

edit: here's Kink's channel http://www.youtube.com/user/kink303

nice one. kinks a badmon

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something I started a few days ago, would appreciate any feedback, literally the first thing I've ever made!