Flight MH370

[garethom]

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/w ... oblem/931/

So who's got their PADI Certificate then?

totally up for the 6,600 psi's of crushing force.

and the Cuvier’s beaked whale is a bad man.

If you ain't swimming with the Sea Devils, you ain't scuba diving imo.

[nousd]

Oz PM, the Mad Monk,
has announced that air search has been ineffective
and any success will only come through submarine exploration.

So, the incident is being pushed underwater
without there being any proof that the plane went down over the Indian Ocean.
Red herrings I say.

Told you it was aliens.

[nowaysj]

US west coast and UK airports grounded. Some event going on.

[sixs]

you mean the brief hour that flights were grounded at LAX?

edit nvm, just saw it was more than lax

[garethom]

Flights are delayed in the UK, not grounded totally.

I would tell you that the government are saying it's an IT glitch, but then again, I guess it doesn't really matter what they say

[nowaysj]

Flights are delayed in the UK, not grounded totally.

I would tell you that the government are saying it's an IT glitch, but then again, I guess it doesn't really matter what they say

No it doesn't matter. What is the chance that your it glitch occurred at the same time we had an it glitch? Pretty astronomical in my book.

I'm not saying this but fucking kim jung un said that he would unleash a new form of attack on his enemies by april 30th. So it was to the day. I don't know, helluv coinikydinky. But really there are so many options right now, russia, china, internal...

[magma]

Flights are delayed in the UK, not grounded totally.

I would tell you that the government are saying it's an IT glitch, but then again, I guess it doesn't really matter what they say

No it doesn't matter. What is the chance that your it glitch occurred at the same time we had an it glitch? Pretty astronomical in my book.

You're priceless man. Keep it up.

[garethom]

Flights are delayed in the UK, not grounded totally.

I would tell you that the government are saying it's an IT glitch, but then again, I guess it doesn't really matter what they say

No it doesn't matter. What is the chance that your it glitch occurred at the same time we had an it glitch? Pretty astronomical in my book.

How many air traffic control systems can there be? Doubt it's "astronomical".

I'm not saying this but fucking kim jung un said that he would unleash a new form of attack on his enemies by april 30th. So it was to the day. I don't know, helluv coinikydinky.

Where did he say this? The guy can probably barely dress himself, yet his new form of attack was to delay some flights?

[nowaysj]

Well both of our infrastructures are digitally vulnerable. I defo could imagine impotent nk thinking yeah we're going to bring hundreds of planes down, and our authorities were like ground the flights, and land the planes in the air, end of.

Where did he say it? Fuck if I know, just do a search, it'll come up.

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Magma, I've got 14k days on this planet that this hasn't happened. One in 14k is astronomical for me, especially in the light of other geopolitical tensions.

[garethom]

Where did he say it? Fuck if I know, just do a search, it'll come up.

I tried. It didn't.

Is there a more open-minded search engine you can suggest that will bring back completely made up stuff?

[magma]

Magma, I've got 14k days on this planet that this hasn't happened. One in 14k is astronomical for me, especially in the light of other geopolitical tensions.

I didn't realise you'd been keeping track of minor outages to Air Traffic Control systems for all of those 14k days; props. I bet you never knew when that'd come in handy! A quick Google suggests that there have been quite a few though, but that's all reported by "reputable news sources" and we all know how evil they are.

I can't say I know anything about Air Traffic Control systems from a technical standpoint, but as a techy I'd rather hope that each airport didn't develop its own system in isolation from the rest of the world; the tricky thing about planes is that they tend to cross borders. Again as a techy for one of the largest companies in the world, I can assure you that systems go down all the time for no other reason than most critical IT systems in the most critical fields are often held together with the electronic equivalent of sticky tape because people are so afraid of overhauling them.

Anyway, from what I can see reported LAX was grounded along with flights going to LAX from other airports causing knock-on delays and queuing issues on runways which is exactly what you'd expect from an outage to a system at LAX. What have you seen that's made you assume it's something sinister?

[garethom]

kim jong un said bro.

[magma]

Where did he say this? The guy can probably barely dress himself, yet his new form of attack was to delay some flights?

1000 British man hours down the fucking drain at the drop of a hat.. all those people wandering around Heathrow forced into buying another Panini. I bet some even missed their connections and had to buy a Panini somewhere else too. The like of this will never be seen again. And look at the date - 501 - you'd have to be blind not to see this is CLEARLY an anti-capitalist attack striking at the beating heart of American denim culture.

NEVER FORGET 501

[nowaysj]

Anyway, from what I can see reported LAX was grounded along with flights going to LAX from other airports causing knock-on delays and queuing issues on runways which is exactly what you'd expect from an outage to a system at LAX. What have you seen that's made you assume it's something sinister?

I'm not certain that I said it was something sinister, but I do think the potential is there.

A fault affecting UK Border Force computers on Wednesday afternoon led to travel disruption and extra staff have been brought in to try to reduce the lengthy lines.

Heathrow, Gatwick, Birmingham and Manchester are among the airports across the country that were hit.

The problem is mostly affecting those trying to enter the country and is having a particular impact on non-EU airline customers.

That is for the UK. Then at the same time, several systems went down:

The FAA has declared a "ground halt" on all flights at the following airports: BOS, BWI, DCA, EWR, FLL, JFK, LAS, LAX, LGA, MCO, MIA, PHL, TEB

*COMPUTER PROVIDING AIR-TRAFFIC RADAR DISPLAY MALFUNCTIONING

LAX is citing "computer issues" as the reason (and a radar system crash across at least 3 Western states) which could mean delays up to 90 minutes.

If you'd really like to get into the sinister, I might be able to tell you in a little while why I think this happened. I read from one former flight controller, and trainer about a certain fragility in a particular system, and in his opinion this is what caused the fault in the US. I don't think that covers the full scope of what happened. Am digging on this. Not looking at media reports, doing deeper investigation when time permits.

And as it stands right now, I don't think this was a glitch, or an attack, I think this was internally directed as a defensive measure. More later...

[magma]

[titchbit]

^can't wait till he's on CBS.

i officially agree with everybody from now on. conspiracy thoerist? I agree with you. hate conspiracies? i agree with you to. this applies to all topics on all threads in dsf.

[nousd]

big-ups for:

noway: deep research effort into what other peebs may dismiss as coincidental/crazy
megma: scepticism over crazy conspiratorialist claims
debarked: sensible decision to agree with me, sceptics and conspiratorialists

[nousd]

double penetration

[mks]

Did you guys not hear that it "may" have been a US U-2 spy plane that caused the glitch while flying over the area?

U-2 spy plane caused widespread shutdown of U.S. flights: report

(Reuters) - A U-2 spy plane caused a computer glitch at a California air traffic control center that led officials to halt takeoffs on Wednesday at several airports in the Southwestern United States and ground planes bound for the region from other parts of the country, NBC reported on Saturday.

The computer problem at a Federal Aviation Administration center slowed the journeys of tens of thousands of arriving and departing passengers at Los Angeles International Airport, one of the busiest in the country.

Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, California, John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana, California, and McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas were among other facilities affected by the order to keep planes grounded.

So were flights in other parts of the country that were bound for the wide swath of airspace in the Southwestern United States managed by the FAA's Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center.

The FAA has released few details on the nature of the problem that caused its officials to halt flights.

The Pentagon could not immediately be reached for comment.

NBC, citing unnamed sources, reported a U-2, a Cold War-era spy plane still in use by the U.S. military, passed through air space monitored by the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center and appears to have overloaded a computer system at the center.

Computers at the center began operations to prevent the U-2 from colliding with other aircraft, even though the U-2 was flying at an altitude of 60,000 feet and other airplanes passing through the region's air space were miles below, NBC reported.

Sources told NBC News the U-2 plane had a U.S. Defense Department flight plan. "It was a 'Dragon Lady,'" one source told NBC, using the nickname for the plane.

FAA spokeswoman Lynn Lunsford would not comment on whether the computer problem at the agency's center on Wednesday was caused by a U-2 flight.

"We aren't confirming anything beyond what we already said about it being a software issue that we corrected," Lunsford said in an email to Reuters.

(Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis; Editing by Peter Cooney)

[nowaysj]

yeh jokes same plane shut down east coast and uk ;0