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wysockisauce wrote:

ezza wrote:i dont get most films lol im with nwj

deffo not a film head

the older ones especially that everyone raves about are so bad. like the old black and white ones where they hadnt really worked out how to make stuff seem 'real'... like the actings so theatrical and mono, and it just flows well weird unlike real life

according to some of my mates tho they're the best ones :/

You can draw an analogy to music. If you introduce someone that listens to chart music to some of the more creative/unique pieces out there, they just won't get it.

You have to work your way back to the old black and white movies with the theatrical, mono acting.

hmm yeah i guess

i mean i dont really like shit films either tho. i like a lot of films that are considered 'good' but i just dont get the un-realistic play-like, black and white, theatrical, mono acting ones

seems like bare effort to try as well. probably save me a lot of time just excepting i dont like them

Harkat wrote:nwj are you fuckin trolling? Do you not watch movies at all? What about books? TV shows? Music?

Why listen to music ffs

Like 95% not trolling. In reverse order, music, I love listening to music; sound, beat structure, melody, and novelty give me pleasure. Really, I'm just a head nodder, I like to be, and can be, in a beat.

Tv shows, yeah, turned off the tv a few years ago. I don't know when, a while ago.

Books... I do a lot of reading online now. In the past I've really enjoyed reading books, but I've kind of had a narrow focus, as far as novels, really pretty narrow, but novels don't do much for me now, either too shallow to really care about, just a page turner, I've got better stuff to do, or too deep, and I'm kind of missing the full import, kind of shameful. Rarely do I find an author whose language is just pleasurable. The phenomenon is a lot like sound when listening to music. I really enjoyed good science fiction back when it was fiction, now the envelope has become so compressed, we're so close to the singularity, or within the singularity, it doesn't work anymore. But generally, I prefer nonfiction now, and I enjoy factual information that expands my consciousness, or gives me new theoretical frameworks for understanding reality. Movies... not really much anymore.

Back in the day, yeah, I liked films, heavy on the Fellini, Hitchcock, Lynch axis.

I've had a pretty large 'theoretical framework' shift which is pretty much all encompassing, so accurately describes the world, and is attacked so consistently throughout all popular culture. There was a time when going back and viewing all the popular culture I consumed as a child, as a young adult, and as an adult and understanding the messaging in light of this 'theoretical framework' was interesting (and horrifying), but I don't know, that is passed.

I don't really enjoy movies anymore, really, I haven't seen a serious film in some time. Unlike Agent, I liked older films with awkward pacing, slower pacing, more visual pacing. For a film to work, a kind of magic is necessary, a fire like phenomenon has to take hold, you have to fall into the movie. That doesn't really happen to me anymore. When I'm really tired, immobilized, I like putting my head on my wife's breast and watching some stupid movie for a little while.

ezza wrote:i dont get most films lol im with nwj

deffo not a film head

the older ones especially that everyone raves about are so bad. like the old black and white ones where they hadnt really worked out how to make stuff seem 'real'... like the actings so theatrical and mono, and it just flows well weird unlike real life

according to some of my mates tho they're the best ones :/

You like Jennifer Aniston romantic comedies. You're 100% right about not being into films.

wolf89 wrote:

ezza wrote:i dont get most films lol im with nwj

deffo not a film head

the older ones especially that everyone raves about are so bad. like the old black and white ones where they hadnt really worked out how to make stuff seem 'real'... like the actings so theatrical and mono, and it just flows well weird unlike real life

according to some of my mates tho they're the best ones :/

You like Jennifer Aniston romantic comedies. You're 100% right about not being into films.

they're just watchable when ur ruff

aaaand even tho they're shit, at least they flow like real life and the acting is just like how people act in real life

i dont care what u say those old 50s black and white 'classics' just dont. the acting is so blatant, and the way its shot you just know ur watching a film for every second of it. its more like watching a recorded theatre production. not into that at ALL. i fucking hate the theatre with a passion. cringe cringe cringe

im talking strictly about production, acting, flow etc

not about how good the story is. cus without those 3 things^ i dont like films

and by acting i dont mean some amazing emotional shit cus a lot of films dont have those scenes. i just mean acting at a level where u forget they're acting

How can you not see the blatant acting in romantic comedies? Or the fact that something like Love Actually or Bridget Jones doesn't look remotely like real life? (and not in an intentional stylistic fashion)

yeah tbf rom coms are shit i agree. i just like them

but old black and white is exactly the same

korean melodramas > rom coms

ezza wrote:yeah tbf rom coms are shit i agree. i just like them

but old black and white is exactly the same

I'm lost as to what you're even referring to. I mean everything was in black and white at one point across all genres and styles. There's loads of different types of acting in them. Lots of different directorial styles.

all the ones ive seen are well shit acting and kinda theatrical

its like as a whole people just hadnt worked out how to make believable real life films in those eras

They haven't in rom coms

Can you name any of these films?

30-40s


i just google black and white movies and these were the famous ones... all the trailers explain what i mean








there like cliche over the top shit acting. even the voice they all put on

Check it.

They didn't know shit back then. Studios were churning out 'films' by the dozens.
Obviously there's exceptions like Eisenstein and the incredibly racist and short-sighted
DW Griffith But in today's context, a film like Battleship Potemkin is pretty unwatchable
if you're just going into it for the entertainment.

Focussing specifically on the voice in 30's cinema is a bit unfair though. Think about the
massive overhaul caused by the sound-film innovation. Drastically changed the acting profession.

That being said, I'll side with Wolf and fight the horrible rom-coms and Korean melo-dramas

children of men should be one of the two.

i remember really really liking the swedish version of let the right one in quite a lot. however im not sure i would place it in the top two.

no country for old men would be another contender for sure.

do you say that because Indian Stomp, War Dub, Anti War Dub (<<lol), Money Honey and Backward were included in the soundtrack?

nowaysj wrote:

Harkat wrote:nwj are you fuckin trolling? Do you not watch movies at all? What about books? TV shows? Music?

Why listen to music ffs

Really, I'm just a head nodder, I like to be, and can be, in a beat.

oh, we know

The Twilight Samurai (2002)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351817/
comparable to the black and white samurai movies

Turtles Can Fly (2004)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424227/
powerful movie, it can easily get you depressed, but very rewarding, and don't worry it's ok to cry.