Whats your view about all things scene related???

[nesslei]

i personally think that like ashley said dubstep still has a certain way to go before finding the right balance of sound and production or whatever

i'm confused by this comment. i feel there are some incredible examples of balanced sound and production out there.

[patient]

with the end of the year fast approaching, there's so much to be thankful for, and i sometimes feel that this over analysis and microscopic nitpicking , actually becomes a bit silly. my 2cents, and i'm not trying to belittle the importance of the thread, but i think we have to realize and give thanks for where this music was 5 years ago,and where it stands today.

Very wisely said.

I think that right now there is loads of really massive music (and also pretty varied in style) being produced and to me it seems that it's not the wobble or halfstep or what-be-it that is "killing dubstep" but the constant negativity and over analysing... I believe in doing what you believe in - buying stuff you like and playing stuff you like. Quite simple.

Sometimes it feels like being in a minority here because of actually liking dubstep and not hating 90% of it.

And also gotta add very much respect for dead-o and tes la rok for really pushing it in Finland and keeping things varied and interesting. Here you can hear Peverelist played alongside of Rusko and a bit of techno - and I love it.

[*grand*]

Don't get me wrong i lve dubstep to the bone.. i think its responsile for a lot of things that are in my life now. I love the positive energy from most people in nights, don't get it twisted they're many people who go to nights who don't feel it. The only thing im just a bit worried about, and it was the original thought that lead me to create this thread, is why with all tha positivity, that freedom why are people becoming dis heartened or whatever the word is with this movement that i know they really love?
I guess from the masses of responses from parson why that is the case.

I just wish alot more of the dj's on this board would actually add some input... One issue that has been numerous throughout this thread is that some of the lovelyness is being left out of sets just so that there is nothing but hype...

Why.. especially when i say at any night at least 1/3 of guys/gals are dubsteppers who would really appreciate theses tracks, who now feel aliented in a world that they grew to love..

hold tight chef.............. becuase he dont mind drawing for those little different things.. hold D1 his music and sets are lovely; heard his recent stuff with Amy Bullman..... NType i remember when he wouldl drop that loving you is easy cos your beautiful dohdododohhh, but nothing like th at anymore..

why are alot of the top dj's not experimenting no more? maybe its just that time of year... as skream says its winter time for nothing but darkness.. hold tight winters season... is that how it is then when winter comes the niceness ges left indoors where its warm?

[xor]

why are alot of the top dj's not experimenting no more? maybe its just that time of year... as skream says its winter time for nothing but darkness.. hold tight winters season... is that how it is then when winter comes the niceness ges left indoors where its warm?

Winter is when producers bed down in their studios, get introspective, hone ideas, move up a gear and write really great stuff for release in the spring (and increasingly, earlier). Just hold tight!

[elgato]

hold tight chef.............. becuase he dont mind drawing for those little different things.. hold D1 his music and sets are lovely; heard his recent stuff with Amy Bullman..... NType i remember when he wouldl drop that loving you is easy cos your beautiful dohdododohhh, but nothing like th at anymore..

why are alot of the top dj's not experimenting no more? maybe its just that time of year... as skream says its winter time for nothing but darkness.. hold tight winters season... is that how it is then when winter comes the niceness ges left indoors where its warm?

chef is my favourite of the big djs for this reason, he mixes all across the board in terms of mood and style

and D1 is on something different. Anti-social are pushing that way and i think soon will be killing it (even harder). DJ sets are sick too, they've got energy, glitz, vibes

[ajantis_art]

a lot of the points discussed in this thread are reasons why i thinnk platform 1 is such an important night. freshness, up'n'coming music policy, family vibes, weighty system. what dubstep's about for me.

[*grand*]

why are alot of the top dj's not experimenting no more? maybe its just that time of year... as skream says its winter time for nothing but darkness.. hold tight winters season... is that how it is then when winter comes the niceness ges left indoors where its warm?

Winter is when producers bed down in their studios, get introspective, hone ideas, move up a gear and write really great stuff for release in the spring (and increasingly, earlier). Just hold tight!

im always waiting.. lookin forward to the new S&D to be honest!

[wilberforce]

Recent online mixes from Peverelist, Kode9, Milanese etc... show diversity and experimentation are still alive and well.

From an NZ perspective I think the club 'scene' suffers from over hype syndrome. The young munters in the front row tend to take over the gig. The MC gets over excited and kills the vibe for the rest of the floor ie. the people who want it deep, diverse and not rewound excessively.

Case in point was the recent Mala gig - on the back of a set here 4 months back where his set was more diverse with NO REWINDS (that i can remember) which was great because he controlled the flow beautifully - instead of the MC's groupies destroying the dancefloor repeatedly.

from myspace.com/nzdubstep "Hey yeah Mala was awesome - played some stinky grooves. I look forward to more of that calibre - bring on Loefah!!! Not so sure about the MC scenario - a bit like someone talking through all the best bits in a movie, telling you you're in a cinema, the name of the cinema and the name of the movie you're watching and what's happening in it .... over and over."

Respect to Pinch for keeping it diverse when he played here recently - would have been nice to see more people turn up - maybe next time? Much smaller crowd = not as much hype, which was cool.

As the Auckland 'scene' evolves hopefully it will remember that it's about the music - not the hype. Sure, have some fun, but not at the expense of the rest of the crowd - some of us get bored of the same trick/lyric etc... "Check yourself, before you wreck yourself"

And i hope we continue to see diversity instead of the pretend gangsta crew keeping it conformist. Then maybe more outsiders who don't speak the slang will see how amazing the movement is.

I've been waiting for electronica to be heard on sound systems and compatible in clubs for over a decade - for the most part the music is revolutionary and i am very supportive - maybe i'll even get to hear a tune by the godfather 'Scorn' on a sound system one day. Scorn - Glugged (promo clip)

The evolution will not be televised

Peace
Wilberforce
http://substep.com

[sully_shanks]

why are alot of the top dj's not experimenting no more? maybe its just that time of year... as skream says its winter time for nothing but darkness.. hold tight winters season... is that how it is then when winter comes the niceness ges left indoors where its warm?

when u write u are influenced by everything around u. when it gets dark at 4 and its raining most of the time ur gonna pick up on different vibes than when u can spend yr time chilling in the park in the sun sipping cold ones...
dark can be funky still tho!

[OoGuN]

From an NZ perspective I think the club 'scene' suffers from over hype syndrome. The young munters in the front row tend to take over the gig. The MC gets over excited and kills the vibe for the rest of the floor ie. the people who want it deep, diverse and not rewound excessively.

Hmmm. I dunno, but I don't think the "scene" in Auckland is big enough yet to be suffering from over-hype. I played at the Pinch gig and don't recall seeing any young munters..all i saw were people dancing and bigging up the music and the djs.

As for mc's , well i've heard good ones, bad ones and indifferent ones, but thank f*ck i have not met one yet in NZ with a groupie following that do their every bidding....

Pinch indeed played a wonderful set, rewinds and all. No one forces a dj to rewind, though crowd pressure can play a part.

Sorry, but what you're describing doesn't sound like Dubstep in Auckland to me.

[wilberforce]

Pinch indeed played a wonderful set, rewinds and all. No one forces a dj to rewind, though crowd pressure can play a part.

Sorry, but what you're describing doesn't sound like Dubstep in Auckland to me.

Word - I enjoyed Pinch's set massively!

i was referring to the recent Mala gig - were you there?

[*grand*]

oi..i live for the darknest.. hold tight distance, hold tight skream... big up youngsta i like it dark and minimal .. head down.. eyes shut business .. step into the zone...

[wilberforce]

oi..i live for the darknest.. hold tight distance, hold tight skream... big up youngsta i like it dark and minimal .. head down.. eyes shut business .. step into the zone...

Hold tight Scorn! Scorn - Glugged (promo clip)

[incyde]

oi..i live for the darknest.. hold tight distance, hold tight skream... big up youngsta i like it dark and minimal .. head down.. eyes shut business .. step into the zone...

me too. darknest massive!

[contakt]

Wow, I go away for two days and miss this!

Great discussion, large up Grand.

Nothing new to add really - just will say what I've said on other threads before - 'dubstep' is our/your music. It is what we make of it.

It's about taking a bit of responsibility and making the effort to find stuff that makes YOU go 'what the fuck!' and gives YOU that thrill that got you into dubstep in the first place. It's not about what everyone else thinks.

As individuals, we need to make moves to make the scene what we think it should be. Others will come with us and then together with everyone else doing their thing, we'll have a scene that is diverse and vibrant and accommodating of all sorts of styles.

Hopefully, we won't be dicks about it and start seeing this diversity as a challenge and an excuse to descend into tribalism, instead of what it's always been - one of the essential elements of what makes dubstep as amazing as it is.

[d_three]

It's about taking a bit of responsibility and making the effort to find stuff that makes YOU go 'what the fuck!' and gives YOU that thrill that got you into dubstep in the first place. It's not about what everyone else thinks.

words of wisdom

[nesslei]

Pinch indeed played a wonderful set, rewinds and all. No one forces a dj to rewind, though crowd pressure can play a part.

Sorry, but what you're describing doesn't sound like Dubstep in Auckland to me.

Word - I enjoyed Pinch's set massively!

i was referring to the recent Mala gig - were you there?

i was there. i hear what you're saying about the mc. but not about the munters up the front - i thought everyone got their skank on quite beautifully, to be honest.

[human?]

the map is not the territory.

[wilberforce]

Pinch indeed played a wonderful set, rewinds and all. No one forces a dj to rewind, though crowd pressure can play a part.

Sorry, but what you're describing doesn't sound like Dubstep in Auckland to me.

Word - I enjoyed Pinch's set massively!

i was referring to the recent Mala gig - were you there?

i was there. i hear what you're saying about the mc. but not about the munters up the front - i thought everyone got their skank on quite beautifully, to be honest.

Yeah man the floor was skankin alright - especially the second hour of Malas set when he went deep - it was just a shame the flow kept getting broken.

I wasn't up the front - so i'm not pointing anyone out as a young munter - I'm sure it happens to the best of us after a few lagers, especially in our youth.

Scenes come and go, so i'm pretty tolerant, but sometimes you just gotta stick up for the silent majority - including women and grown ups who just ain't into that B boy shit...

I vote - Keep the flow

[dave]

No one forces a dj to rewind, though crowd pressure can play a part.

and mc pressure.

its cool when the crowd going nuts causes a rewind.

its shit when the crowd isn't feeling it and the mc calls for a rewind because they know it / like it / want to school the crowd / whatever.