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But 'the way we have evolved'?!

Are you sure?

I had an anxiety attack when I bumped into this woman in Asda for whom I had been pulling myself over and stalking on facebook six months previous, she asked if I could just grab something of the top shelf for her...It got too much.

Pedro Sánchez wrote:I had an anxiety attack when I bumped into this woman in Asda for whom I had been pulling myself over and stalking on facebook six months previous, she asked if I could just grab something of the top shelf for her...It got too much.

Genevieve wrote:

Laszlo wrote:

Lye Form wrote:Anxiety is normal, I think more people than not have had anxiety attacks at some point and is just the way we have evolved.

Really?

Seems to me to be a particularly western world, late 20th/early 21st century phenomenon to me.

It's only now become accepted as something real and more documented. There was a huge stigma against mental illness for a long time, probably dually so for something like anxiety.

At uni i had a part time job in a supermarket - worked with a guy who immigrated from Sierra Leon when he was about 18 because people killed everyone in his village including his entire family whilst he hid (was 11 or something at the time), anxiety is just part of a life like that, when us westerners get it for stupid reasons we question it more/ give it names/ use it as an excuse/ etc. I think a lot of people claim to have anxiety disorders when they don't... its just our wiring.

Laszlo wrote:But 'the way we have evolved'?!

Are you sure?

I'm not 'sure' of anything, just to the best of my understanding of anxiety, its a survival instinct for releasing adrenalin in life or death situations, i.e running away from big hairy things with sharp teeth or other humans. Social anxiety is the fear of doing something wrong which can result in being killed by that person/someone in their tribe. Anxiety has been around as long as adrenalin has.. if that makes sense.

^Yeah, but, as per your example, how does an anxiety attack whilst jammin on a SE Asian beach help us it terms of not getting killed?

Agent 47 wrote:

magma wrote:You don't have any direction in your life and your brain is throwing a fit.

Do something constructive with your life. You'll feel better once your psyche is happy that you're not wasting your one chance at human existence on being a cock as publicly as possible.

you don't know anything about me... you occasionally see something dumb i write while fucked up

hardly a representation of me as a person

i don't use this forum too seriously, take what i say with a pinch of salt man

My post was a bit acerbic because your online "persona" winds me the fuck up (not many people manage that without ever talking about politics - props) but the sentiment's real enough - the only time I've ever reliably felt like you described is when I was out of work on full pay for 3 months a few years ago. Spent most of it trying to convince myself I was living the dream, but I didn't realise how low I'd got until I finally had to go into work again.

Listlessness from lack of direction is real shit.

magma wrote:Listlessness from lack of direction is real shit.

100% this

magma wrote:You don't have any direction in your life and your brain is throwing a fit.

Do something constructive with your life. You'll feel better once your psyche is happy that you're not wasting your one chance at human existence on being a cock as publicly as possible.

lol are you having a go at 'being a cock as publicly as possible'?

ehbrums1 wrote:

wolf89 wrote:im a grumpy sullen person who hates everything under the sun

...except he was talking about something he likes soooo....

Mason wrote:

magma wrote:You don't have any direction in your life and your brain is throwing a fit.

Do something constructive with your life. You'll feel better once your psyche is happy that you're not wasting your one chance at human existence on being a cock as publicly as possible.

lol are you having a go at 'being a cock as publicly as possible'?

Depends entirely what you get out of it.

If you're paying for a great life by letting the world think you're a shiftless dick (eg. Karl Pilkington) then I imagine it's easy to become pretty content with garnering low levels of respect. If you promote yourself as a dick yet you're left with no cash and the only stories you've got to tell are about getting kicked out of student accommodation, stealing from all-you-can-eat restaurants and missing lectures then you're probably not doing it right... and your brain will almost certainly freak out on you eventually.

Laszlo wrote:^Yeah, but, as per your example, how does an anxiety attack whilst jammin on a SE Asian beach help us it terms of not getting killed?

because its a trigger - Our lifestyles now don't match the way we have evolved. we malfunction/ brains over-react to things, a huge rush of adrenalin (panic attack) can happen when its not a life/death situation or in any risk at all. Drink and drugs can add to it

haa fair enough, don't see why some random guy on the internet who you will likely never meet's lifestyle gets to you so much though.

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magma wrote:

Mason wrote:

magma wrote:You don't have any direction in your life and your brain is throwing a fit.

Do something constructive with your life. You'll feel better once your psyche is happy that you're not wasting your one chance at human existence on being a cock as publicly as possible.

lol are you having a go at 'being a cock as publicly as possible'?

Depends entirely what you get out of it.

If you're paying for a great life by letting the world think you're a shiftless dick (eg. Karl Pilkington) then I imagine it's easy to become pretty content with garnering low levels of respect. If you promote yourself as a dick yet you're left with no cash and the only stories you've got to tell are about getting kicked out of student accommodation, stealing from all-you-can-eat restaurants and missing lectures then you're probably not doing it right... and your brain will almost certainly freak out on you eventually.

I do get what your sayin

but i just think you've read me all wrong

those storys aren't meant to be 'ooo look at me, i did this'

they were just some fun on an internet off topic forum

I didn't expect the over reaction i got at all lol. to me asking how to steal from an all you can eat was just a funny, ironic question, which i hoped would lead to a good thread

& the other stupid stuff is what most people i know do on a weekly basis. so if thats so terrible then unfortunately we're fucked, cus that is youth today (even the ones in higher education )

the accommodation thing was a kick in the balls tbf, but it all good & sorted now

but yeah, chill out. i mean sorry i offend you so much in person i usually get along with people real well. my internet skills must be poor

Lye Form wrote:

Laszlo wrote:^Yeah, but, as per your example, how does an anxiety attack whilst jammin on a SE Asian beach help us it terms of not getting killed?

because its a trigger - Our lifestyles now don't match the way we have evolved. we malfunction/ brains over-react to things, a huge rush of adrenalin (panic attack) can happen when its not a life/death situation or in any risk at all. Drink and drugs can add to it

Ah I see.
But you reckon this affects more people than not? Would you say (even at a guess) that this is true on a worldwide scale?

This isn't an attack, i'm just interested.

but yeah, chill out. i mean sorry i offend you so much in person i usually get along with people real well. my internet skills must be poor

I wasn't really dwelling on any of that stuff right now (I think I covered it all pretty effectively the other week) - you've justified them before too; I guess we just have a different sense of humour - I was really just explaining the lack of tact in my post - it's not that you offend me - as I said, you don't even discuss topics of any relevance - I'm not sure you're capable of offending me - you just wind me up with your whole "HAhahaha I'm so pathetic, it's SO FUNNY M8S!!" shtick, especially when it's followed with posts like this where you ask for help and then fight against the advice offered. It's not very funny at all, is it? It's only pathetic, isn't it? It seems to imply a lack of belief in the self - as if you feel like earning respect from your peers for anything but clowning around is above your borne station as the class fool - which is why I'm not at all surprised to see you make a post about anxiety.

You asked why you feel anxious every day - I told you why I felt anxious every day a few years ago and why that might tie into your situation.

Human happiness requires work - we're simply not designed to relax or have irreverent fun all the time, we can't handle it. Just like you get unfit and have a heart attack if you don't exercise, you get mentally unfit and end up having a breakdown if you don't use your brain properly. One of the hardest conflicts to resolve in modern life is the amount of comfort we can experience short-term whilst being entirely indifferent to our long term health and success - we're told every day that the key to happiness is being able to go on holiday, being able to sit around drinking beer or buying ourselves fancy clothes - when in reality, the most reliable way to a contented human life is to regularly identify goals/challenges and achieve them. Why do you think so many rich people end up in therapy when they give up regular work? Why is it that the working classes are usually more "content" when asked compared to the rich? The brain only seems to properly register a reward if it feels it did something to merit it - shower yourself with fun, relaxation, empty your calendar of responsibilities and you'll pretty soon develop an inability to find long term happiness within yourself - you can get there for a few hours at a time when socialising, drinking or taking drugs, but without a clear direction marked out in your own psyche you'll always come back to feeling like a lost little boy.

We are not amused.

Yours,
Prince Albert & Queen Victoria (e-channeled)

Laszlo wrote:

Lye Form wrote:

Laszlo wrote:^Yeah, but, as per your example, how does an anxiety attack whilst jammin on a SE Asian beach help us it terms of not getting killed?

because its a trigger - Our lifestyles now don't match the way we have evolved. we malfunction/ brains over-react to things, a huge rush of adrenalin (panic attack) can happen when its not a life/death situation or in any risk at all. Drink and drugs can add to it

Ah I see.
But you reckon this affects more people than not? Would you say (even at a guess) that this is true on a worldwide scale?

This isn't an attack, i'm just interested.

I think more people than not will get a panic attack at some point, as its just a very high adrenal release. When i told my doctor i had one he wanted to put me on anti-anxiety medication, which i refused as i am never anxious in day to day life, i know this has happened to quite a few people who didn't think they needed any. :-/

I think in some cultures it isn't even thought of as a panic attack/people don't care when someone says they feel that way/ people keep it a secret when they do as it's taboo. Anxiety is a strange one as it really is 'all in your head'.

berghain looks a lot less like a squat than i thought it would going off this picture of the panorama bar



loads bigger and more light shows than i was expecting

Magma, while I agree with what you're saying, I think you're putting way too much effort into Wonga. Shouldn't take him so seriously.

Agreed.

I put way too much effort into everything around here, I think. I just like the sound of my own voice (err, shapes of my own text?)

particle-jim wrote:she dresses how I would probably dress if I was a man...

Wut?

i thought you were a man?