Dubstep in a lull ?

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:47 pm

agree with ya skream - people go most nuts generally to the crazy lfo tracks

even though i love the more mellow deep stuff, and make it myself - i still probs wouldnt drop most of it if i were playing a peak time slot. depends on the vibe of the event i guess. good thing about nights like red star, is generally people aren't there to go nuts and rave it up (or at least not when i've been down there

) so this gives the DJ more opportunity to drop stuff different from the norm

narcossist · Post by **narcossist** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:58 pm

elgato wrote:
but its the producer/djs choice whether they cater for the majority and their limited appreciation, or do their own thing and hope that those that know will follow

nail on head.

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:02 pm

elgato wrote:thing ive got to say is that its a shame that nowadays theres such little involvement of big artists/figures in the scene here on the forum in discussion

I was literally just thinking that. I wish someone like Coki would just pop in, say hello and tell us that [insert one of many tunes here] is coming out very very soon, and would you like a free copy Joseph, oh thanks very much.

Sorry. Rambling.

james_knight · Post by **james_knight** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:45 pm

ramadanman wrote:depends on the vibe of the event i guess. good thing about nights like red star, is generally people aren't there to go nuts and rave it up (or at least not when i've been down there ) so this gives the DJ more opportunity to drop stuff different from the norm

Couldn't agree more, in my d&b days a lot of my favourite nights were midweek/Sunday sessions, strictly for the heads and guaranteed a variety of tunes.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:59 pm

elgato wrote:its a shame that nowadays theres such little involvement of big artists/figures in the scene here on the forum in discussion

and why do people think that is then?

billy blanks · Post by **billy blanks** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:31 pm

but its the producer/djs choice whether they cater for the majority and their limited appreciation, or do their own thing and hope that those that know will follow

totally agree.

also depends on how the term 'appreciation' is defined. of course everyone jumping around on a super skank is one sort. but i've never appreciated a set more than pinch's at the last dmz, and i was almost totally still, as were a large percentage of ppl there. and i'm pretty sure loads of ppl felt that set as hard as any other.

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:57 pm

Blackdown wrote:
elgato wrote:its a shame that nowadays theres such little involvement of big artists/figures in the scene here on the forum in discussion
and why do people think that is then?

im not entirely sure to be honest, i'd be interested to hear what you reckon

because of this kind of thread? because they dont want to get drawn into heated argument and associate personal statements with their names?

because of a feeling that there should be a separation between artists and punters now that the scene is growing?

some because theyre got more balanced lives and dont have time for internet forums?

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:20 pm

Having just read all this thread it is not good reading, childish insults flying around circular arguments, nothing achieved.

fullyrecordingz · Post by **fullyrecordingz** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:22 pm

Ya Think?

hera · Post by **hera** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:58 am

your mothers in a lull.

id like to add that i read nothing in this thread.

selector.dub.u · Post by **selector.dub.u** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:31 am

elgato wrote:
skream wrote:maybe it's not the dj's and producers and dj's faults. . . . . . . . . Ever thought it might be the crowd only havin it to trax with an l.f.o bass dont all turn on me for sayin this but its just something i've been thinkin about. . .
i agree

but its the producer/djs choice whether they cater for the majority and their limited appreciation, or do their own thing and hope that those that know will follow

Word.

u dub · Post by **u dub** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:54 pm

Intoccabile wrote: I say foreign producers will refresh dubstep !

Working on that. Bringing in the English on this side of the pond also works refreshing, for both sides. Dubstep is in its early stage in the Netherlands, still, although big things are about to happen, not least the airing of a nationwide show on the Dutch equivalent of the BBC. And I like what is going on in Japan with Mala and Goth Trad.

kidcazual · Post by **kidcazual** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:47 pm

BACK IN 87 THE THING THAT GOT ME INTO EARLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC , IS THAT YOU COULD GOT TO A RAVE /CLUB AND THE STYLES ALL ROLLED OUT TOGETHER , FOR ME DUBSTEP AINT SAMEY , SURE THERES A CORE SOUND , BUT SHIT SPLINTERS OFF ALL OVER THE PLACE , NEW PRODUCERS, PIONEERS MAKIN THERE OWN SOUND , BUT ONE THING IS FER SURE IN MY MIND , ITS ALL DUBSTEP , NO PIGEON HOLEING, THATS WERE HOUSE AND EVERYTHING THAT CAME AFTER IT WENT WRONG , NOT SURE IF WERE IN A LULL I DONT LEAVE THE FLOOR AT FWD TILL CLOSIN , IVE BEEN UP FROM BRIGHTON ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK FOR EONS , AND STILL CANT GET ENOUGH , POSITIVE MENTAL ATTITUDE

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:52 pm

british underground music is never in a lull.

superisk · Post by **superisk** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:22 pm

J_J wrote:british underground music is never in a lull.

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:37 pm

I come from Grime.

U guys should be thankful your music is still FRESH and MOVING!

Seriously.. the general dubstep listener/producer/dj has a good ear for music, the general grime fan does not. Subsequently in dubstep swag tunes get air, even if your best buddy from when you were 7 at primary school produced it. In Grime, terrible tunes are played for various reasons when they shouldn't be.

You can go to a dubstep rave and catch vibes. There may even be some gash there, who if you do move to you do not have to worry about getting boxed out because no one is on a beef at dubstep raves.

Everytime I check SubFM, Rinse or what have you I hear new dubstep music. Grime is stuck in a rut.. producers aren't doing anything with it. The only 'good' grime for me since the days of Pulse X/Eskimo etc has been Sublow and the odd bit here and there from some producers. Now that Jon E Cash ain't really on it so much the newer BlackOps producers are getting aired because of the mentality of the grime scene.

Also, you people are mature adults.. who go raving to have a good time, make music which represents this. In Grime your average 'fan' is 16. His idea of raving is playing the Bearman ringtone on the #69 and robbing a grunger.

The only thing missing from Dubstep is the MC's. Sometimes I find myself getting bored in a Dub rave because it gets too repetitive. When you've blazed a few zoots and your on the rum you don't really want to get into that sleepy mode. MC's like D Double E, Footsie, Flowdan, Riko, Jamakabi, Killa P.. could you imagine flippin Crazy Titch riding Tortured? Too much.

Anyway, I've typed enough breeze for one day. Thankyou dubstep for keeping me skanking!

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:58 pm

Rudeski Damager wrote:In Grime your average 'fan' is 16. His idea of raving is playing the Bearman ringtone on the #69 and robbing a grunger.

LOL, nail on head.

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:40 pm

^obv u both know fuck all about grime then.

rob · Post by **rob** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:45 pm

J_J wrote:british underground music is never in a lull.

couldn't agree more

lightness · Post by **lightness** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:05 pm

Paulie wrote:
Rudeski Damager wrote:In Grime your average 'fan' is 16. His idea of raving is playing the Bearman ringtone on the #69 and robbing a grunger.
LOL, nail on head.

pathetic

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