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Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 4:00 pm**

spencerTron wrote:i don't understand why some people are so bothered about C+S on mercury ..and not at all fussed that EMI published 'Skream!' in 2006 or is there a massive difference in the involvement?

Yes there is a massive difference to being published by a major and being signed to the actual label.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 4:30 pm**

Contra88 wrote:
pozzoli wrote: I've always found their music to be a bit generic to be honest. I can't think of anything original about any of their tunes, they just seem to hit the right tone at the right time with a high production standard.
What about tracks like Wizard Killa, Rowdy Time, Glitch, The Grudge, & Stand Off? Those tracks aren't clones, they're some of my favourite DNB tracks of all time. Those tracks are a good example of how much they've changed over tha years.

Props to them though, big ups to anyone making money off the thing they love doing!

wizard killa, rowdy time - tech itch/dylan/b key or pretty much anyone on barcode at that time
glitch, the grudge (even though it's a collab) - noisia/phace/neuro at that moment
stand off - evol intent/ewun/barcode at that moment in time

also not saying i don't dig their tunes, just saying there is never really anything new or unique about em

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 6:30 pm**

Contra88 wrote:
pozzoli wrote: I've always found their music to be a bit generic to be honest. I can't think of anything original about any of their tunes, they just seem to hit the right tone at the right time with a high production standard.
What about tracks like Wizard Killa, Rowdy Time, Glitch, The Grudge, & Stand Off? Those tracks aren't clones, they're some of my favourite DNB tracks of all time. Those tracks are a good example of how much they've changed over tha years.

Props to them though, big ups to anyone making money off the thing they love doing!

Yeah I'm not denying they're good tunes, I'm just saying, like Deadly habit has, that everything they've done, there's a ton of other stuff thats just like it, albeit Chase and Status mainly do it a bit better.

My point is that when, for example, Pendulum did Another Planet, it was musically (although dividing opinion) a very ambitious and original piece of music, as well as having high production standard, so for me their breakthrough was less of a surprise. Vault was the first time someone used a triplet fill at the beginning of a phrase, as another example. But with C&S, I've never heard anything in a tune and thought, wow, that'sa really new idea. I actually like quite a lot of their tunes so I'm not being negative really, just don't think they're particularly exciting musically.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 6:41 pm**

wise ups a great tune from back in 03 imo - really stood out for me

my 2 cents is i dont think its a good move for anyone to go to a major unless they're planning teenybopper chart assaults a la pendulum with a 'live band' and all that

o yeah, thats exactly what they're doing!

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 1:35 am**

Contra88 wrote:
pozzoli wrote: I've always found their music to be a bit generic to be honest. I can't think of anything original about any of their tunes, they just seem to hit the right tone at the right time with a high production standard.
Props to them though, big ups to anyone making money off the thing they love doing!

This man.

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 2:25 am**

Deadly Habit wrote:
Contra88 wrote:
pozzoli wrote: I've always found their music to be a bit generic to be honest. I can't think of anything original about any of their tunes, they just seem to hit the right tone at the right time with a high production standard.
What about tracks like Wizard Killa, Rowdy Time, Glitch, The Grudge, & Stand Off? Those tracks aren't clones, they're some of my favourite DNB tracks of all time. Those tracks are a good example of how much they've changed over tha years.

Props to them though, big ups to anyone making money off the thing they love doing!
wizard killa, rowdy time - tech itch/dylan/b key or pretty much anyone on barcode at that time
glitch, the grudge (even though it's a collab) - noisia/phace/neuro at that moment
stand off - evol intent/ewun/barcode at that moment in time

also not saying i don't dig their tunes, just saying there is never really anything new or unique about em

Hahahahaha I guess i've never actually thought about it like that.

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 3:12 am**

TeReKeTe wrote: some of their d&b is among the best ever madel

No it isn't, sorry, but no.

no.

Fair play to them though - they'll carry the torch better than Pendulum do!

Nice shot in the arm for the Ram lads too, i'd imagine...

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 8:38 am**

Tribute wrote:Signing to a major label sucks. All you get to do is make music all day, work with and learn from amazing musicians, producers and engineers, network, raise your profile and make your mum proud. Oh and get paid for it.

JUST TERRIBLE !!!!!!!!
hahaha no doubt

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 9:25 am**

ahh it was bound to happen, all in all thats a good deal for all involved dont forget that RAM will get a healthy pay out from this..

fair enuff they may end making whack music but anyone who produced some fat tracks like they did should be allowed access to the best equipment money has to buy.

lets hope they dont go to pendulum

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 4:57 pm**

does this mean that they will no longer have control over which of their tracks are chosen for releases? so universal will prob choose the cheesyest ones to release

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 6:00 pm**

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 7:41 pm**

emalkay wrote:I don't post on here as often as I should and I don't know these guys on a personal level but I feel I should say somethin here amongst all the hate threads because I think it's pretty unbalanced.

Anybody who works hard for so long, believes in themselves, and then manages to accomplish something like this should earn nothing but respect, whatever you personally think of their music.

There are similar artists who have done the same thing in the past and I've not liked their music one bit but at the same time I give props to them because they stuck at it, grafted it out, and obviously there were plenty of people out there loving their music and bought it.

Don't forget C & S have been around from day, I used to rinse Wise-Up back when that one will always be a percy of mine, it's taken them years to achieve this.

So yea hate on their music all you want but don't hate on their success, it makes you look jealous and synical. Anyone to rise up from a tough music scene like this don't get there fucking around or by one hit wonders.

Just have a little bit of respect.

a lot of truth of course and it isn't easy but i think when someone people really like make it they are equally congratulatory as they would be nasty about music they don't like..

If bats in the belfry or mecha got signed to a major do you really think people would hate on it?

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 10:31 pm**

no surrender!

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1074

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2009 10:31 am**

afriiqaa wrote:i guess its good they signed to them. now metallica wont sue them for their blatent melody rip on saxon haha

that's why they've consistently changed their style to the big thing of the moment and churned out a bunch of generic copycatish tunes over the years and nothing really unique or a sound of their own?

don't get me wrong they're good engineers and i enjoy a couple of their tunes, but they're not doing anything innovative or special to me.
my feelings exactly. they are the epitome of bandwagon jumpers. they make some nice tunes, but its always tagging along and a lack of diversity, sticking to presets for a certain time

hope they make bare money and get gold toilets. i would.

and drown in it

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2009 11:39 am**

best thread evaaaaar

Posted: **Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:37 pm**

[quote="afriiqaa"]i guess its good they signed to them. now metallica wont sue them for their blatent melody rip on saxon haha

[quote]
You mean sampling?

Any guesses on who there next tune will be with anyone?

Posted: **Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:41 pm**

they jumped on the Dubstep bandwagon and sold a shitload of records and then proceeded to cash in on their bandwagon jump. No respect.

Posted: **Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:13 pm**

good luck to them. I really don't understand all the hate against C&S. I wouldn't say their album is among my faves but a lot of other stuff ain't either, so who cares really? What about The Prodigy? I'd consider them more commercial/mainstream than Pendulum or C&S will probably ever become but Prodigy is generally respected and not hated on. If you don't like what they're putting out, pay no more attention to it.
I am however surprised to read that 50K sold units are considered a lot these days.

Posted: **Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:38 pm**

prodigy came out of early rave, a scene which most of us weren't old enough to be a part of. not our problem.

'If you don't like what they're putting out, pay no more attention to it. '
it's hard to ignore commercial music if you have ears. i try my best, i avoid commercial nightclubs like the plague, don't watch mtv or listen to the radio, and yet i always seem to be up to date on the latest chart bollocks. how, i don't know, but it will be impossible not to pay attention to whatever jizz c&s release on universal.

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