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yeah thought so, maybe i got a bit too creative...

hutyluty wrote:

sunny_b_uk wrote: he must be doing something right if he won a fucking grammy.. it doesnt matter how famous someone gets, i doubt you could earn something like that from JUST having a bunch of fans.

thats exact;y whys people win grammys

Still makes better music than any of us

I'm pretty sure there are people on here that do..

ehbrums1 wrote:I'm pretty sure there are people on here that do..

I guess you're either wrong or confusing "better music" with "music I like".

"better music" is subjective. There aren't parameters that once met makes someones music "good" and if you're below the line your music is "bad".

e-motion wrote:

ehbrums1 wrote:I'm pretty sure there are people on here that do..

I guess you're either wrong or confusing "better music" with "music I like".

What is fact but just an opinion held by so many that it becomes perceived as true, If everyone in the world held the idea that say Mala is better than skrillex than wouldn't it then become fact?

It's not about popularity. He earned that popularity by himself, with his music, not by having a six-pack or a OH BABY face. People didn't make music for him to sell it out. So there must be something about his music...

what i said had nothing to do with his popularity...

e-motion wrote:It's not about popularity. He earned that popularity by himself, with his music, not by having a six-pack or a OH BABY face. People didn't make music for him to sell it out. So there must be something about his music...

Actually, to be perfectly honest, yes, his music was a part of it, but he'd never be where he is today without Deadmau5. He knew Deadmau5, and Deadmau5 signed him to Mau5trap, which is a label with a lot of commercial power.

And he's not a better producer than artists like Icicle or Kryptic Minds. And no, that's not judging from the "music-I-like" scale, that's based purely upon the actual technical quality of the production.

back in the day when emo was being hyped by the kids, guess what was his job?

Hircine wrote:back in the day when emo was being hyped by the kids, guess what was his job?

promoting the growing underground dubstep community?

Sonika wrote:

e-motion wrote:It's not about popularity. He earned that popularity by himself, with his music, not by having a six-pack or a OH BABY face. People didn't make music for him to sell it out. So there must be something about his music...

Actually, to be perfectly honest, yes, his music was a part of it, but he'd never be where he is today without Deadmau5. He knew Deadmau5, and Deadmau5 signed him to Mau5trap, which is a label with a lot of commercial power.

And he's not a better producer than artists like Icicle or Kryptic Minds. And no, that's not judging from the "music-I-like" scale, that's based purely upon the actual technical quality of the production.

But still, he's the most successful on mau5trap nowadays. So I guess he deserved that spot.

About production-technical-quality, I can't comment on that. Skrillex can do things that Icicle or Kryptic Mind's can't, but the opposite is also true. Also, Skrillex is still inexperienced, he still has much to learn, but what he made with the little time he had to learn, well, I think we can say he has talent.


His music isn't my favourite thing either but it really anoys me when I read every single day that he has no talent, is a bad sound designer, a bad sound writter, a bad mixer... because that's total bullshit. People that say that either are way too closed minded.

Also, we are musicians, not technicians.

e-motion wrote:

Sonika wrote:

e-motion wrote:It's not about popularity. He earned that popularity by himself, with his music, not by having a six-pack or a OH BABY face. People didn't make music for him to sell it out. So there must be something about his music...

Actually, to be perfectly honest, yes, his music was a part of it, but he'd never be where he is today without Deadmau5. He knew Deadmau5, and Deadmau5 signed him to Mau5trap, which is a label with a lot of commercial power.

And he's not a better producer than artists like Icicle or Kryptic Minds. And no, that's not judging from the "music-I-like" scale, that's based purely upon the actual technical quality of the production.

But still, he's the most successful on mau5trap nowadays. So I guess he deserved that spot.

About production-technical-quality, I can't comment on that. Skrillex can do things that Icicle or Kryptic Mind's can't, but the opposite is also true. Also, Skrillex is still inexperienced, he still has much to learn, but what he made with the little time he had to learn, well, I think we can say he has talent.

Also, we are musicians, not technicians.

Yes we are musicians, so if you want me to analyze the music behind Skrillex's tunes, and tell you why artists like Silkie are infinitely better musicians than he is, I'd be glad to.

Also, correction: Skrillex does things that Icicle and Kryptic Minds don't. It's not that they can't, it's rather that they choose not to because they go for a much more refined sound than he does.

your getting too subjective sonika

ehbrums1 wrote:your getting too subjective sonika

You're right. I'm going to bow out now before this turns into a Skrill-bashing fest.

Sonika wrote:Yes we are musicians, so if you want me to analyze the music behind Skrillex's tunes, and tell you why artists like Silkie are infinitely better musicians than he is, I'd be glad to.

More complex is not the same as better. SMNS intro melody isn't that complex, actually it's pretty random, but it does transmit a feeling and has "the hook". This goes way beyond scales, chords or anything that you learn in music school. Yes it probably was luck... but he nailed it. And that intro (along with Cinema drop, which, imo, is arranged perfectly) is the reason why he won the 3 grammys.

Sonika wrote:Also, correction: Skrillex does things that Icicle and Kryptic Minds don't. It's not that they can't, it's rather that they choose not to because they go for a much more refined sound than he does.

I'm not even commenting on the "they can but they don't do because they are hispters" because I also can make Noisias Reeces but I prefer doing woobles with my mouth because it's much more refined. That doesn't make sense. Even I can make things thay Icicle or Kryptic Minds or Skrillex can't do.
But if you want an example, I'm pretty sure neither of those has the vocal editing skills of skrillex.

There are very many things that I would like to adress about e-motion's above statement but I will not because there have been too many threads like this.

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Okay, I can't resist it...really?
So let me get this straight, if you choose not to sound like Skrillex, you're a hipster??? I must be misunderstanding, please explain.

Also, you want an example of someone who does the same vocal editing stuff as Skrillex? Burial.

And please, do tell, what can you do that Icicle and Kryptic Minds can't?

Edit: his melodies are generally incredibly simple and musically, nothing very special.

People act like there's nothing in the deeper stuff that sounds the same... and that every burial track is ground breakingly different from the one that came before it. I can assure you skrillex isn't the only one using the same sounds over and over again.

Sonika wrote:Okay, I can't resist it...really?
So let me get this straight, if you choose not to sound like Skrillex, you're a hipster??? I must be misunderstanding, please explain.

Also, you want an example of someone who does the same vocal editing stuff as Skrillex? Burial.

And please, do tell, what can you do that Icicle and Kryptic Minds can't?

Edit: his melodies are generally incredibly simple and musically, nothing very special.

That was sarcasm, I'm just saying each one has his tallents, his skills, his sound. Even other top producers with their unique skills can recognize skill in other peoples work, even if they don't like it. Burial has different vocal editting skills, none of both is better but I'm pretty sure neither of them can make something like the other.

Yes his melodys are simple but got "the hook". And "the hook" is hard to make. Also, there's some awesome Nirvana song (don't remember which) that only has 2 chords and is still awesome. I think people are too technical about this. This is why I say that we're musicians, not technicians.


What I can do that Icicle and KM can't... hmm... my 2006 psy trance lead Yeah I totally believe they can make a better psy trance lead, but they can't make mine. Don't have any examples here though.