yes its makes a lot of sense, for example, you buy a house in the center of the city and it´s cost more than the double than another lands you could buy that are 40000 times richer in natural resources, of course you can get the same profit or even more for the house in the center if you put a shop or an office, but here is when the natural cycle of exchange in economy gets stucks, because when you are asking for big prizes without being based in a physical source you´re directly stealing the money to the guy who works in the country by making the people around you increase the prizes of their stuff.Genevieve wrote:For the first part, no, we were talking about the industrial revolution in how it benefited our society and that people in third world countries are living in conditions that are similar what they were here during the industrial revolution and that their standards of living is slowly raised because of it.DiegoSapiens wrote:i though we were discussing about who did the industrial revolution benefit the 3rd world, anyway talking about us, "luxuries", i pay a ridiculous amount of money for having an orange thats tastes a little bit to something similar to a real orange when in the country even the poorest man can have a better orange, second , we don´t have a better life, we just live more and have more facilities to procreate (which is the nonsense goal of progression) if we live better why are the anti depressives the second medicine in the western societies? depressions and suicides DONT EXIST in the tribal life. And yes i´m a bourgeoise but i´m not satisfied because i have a lot of stress and pressure in my studies and i have to makes plans for a future bigger than 20 years (which completely in-natural and quite mental), i can´t talk honestly to people because tabú are constant in our society, i´m addicted to entertaiment, actual religion can´t satisfy my spiritual ambitions etc etc
What you just did was blame society for a lot of things and play the victim card, but you didn't actually address why you and everyone that agrees with your points doesn't do anything to volunarily solve the problems you want other people to be forced to solve. Don't complain about what the super rich aren't doing in your Utopia,but do what you and other likeminded people can actually do now, realitically.
It's like your throwing the solution to the problem off a cliff and complain that there aren't other people at the bottom of it to catch it.
I'm not going to cry about your shitty orange when there's people who haven't even seen food for a week.
I don´t r understand why you talk as if you knew me, anyway i don´t believe that it´s a labour of the middle class and there should not be any regret of being mid class like you feeling bad for buying some proteins, the economy nobel prize Amrtya Sen did a macro study that proved that there is enough sources in the world for allowing the whole humanity be mid class workers.if you work without exploting anybody and making profit of your power is enough for helping the 3rd world And yes i am saying a solution :
Genevieve wrote:Nothing said here makes sense. If only the lower and middle class creates wealth, which is then taken and kept by the upper class, there would've been no increase in wealth over time.DiegoSapiens wrote:and its ridiculous saying that industrial revolution wash´t even a thing. it changed completely the whole world. and it was the start of the great fake that its actual economy: the cities are sustained in a false, THE REAL WEATLH COMES FROM THE 1RST SECTOR AND THE 2ND SECTOR, ONLY, cities business are just a way of freezing the wealth in a vicious circle of intermediaries...
about your argument, you think that the rich can live without the the lower class? no, you think that the poor can live without the rich? of course, the way the rich manage to increase their wealth is very easy when the money of a worker gets in the hand of the rich is going to be be used in two ways:
1 pay the workers, the more lower class the workers are the less they are going to pay
2 pay thing inside the "luxury cycle", in wich everything that they buy have a more expensive prize than the real value (for example diamonds, they are a lot of diamonds in the world but they can´t sell them all because the the prize would go down so the put them in a safe so the prizes keep overrated)
