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RandoRando wrote:

topmo3 wrote:ok erryone now when using sidechain compression, if i have a drum rack for drums and i want the synth / bass / whatever to duck only when the kick comes in,ignoring every other drum hit on the track. how can i do that? in other daws i've made a separate track just for the kick now i'm sure there's an easier way to do that in ableton?

There should be two boxes when selecting the input for the sidechain . The first box select the drum rack, second box select kick-post mixer.

THANK YOU!!!

hello everybody i have a question ive been making but not enough house type/ almost deep techno style synth leads latley. i would post up example but at work right now but almost like the kind in my signature song that comes in after intro on song. but ive going for a deeper style latley ive had luck but not exactly what im looking for. been playing around in operator and creating deep timbre with alot of color i guess and shaping around and also using anaolg usually use both oscs and detune 1 from the other with a tri wave then trurning up the unison to get some cool electric type sounds. but was woundering if anyone was doing the same or had any tips on what they do.??

srry if ?? is choppy havent had alot of posts. thanks in advance

Try using a square or saw wave and detuning it instead of just a triangle. It will add more grit. Also, play around with how all the oscillators are mixed together by selecting the different pattern of squares and that will change your sound.



Those colored squares at the top.

OfficialDAPT wrote:Try using a square or saw wave and detuning it instead of just a triangle. It will add more grit. Also, play around with how all the oscillators are mixed together by selecting the different pattern of squares and that will change your sound.



Those colored squares at the top.

much thanks will try out tonight.ive used the saws but havent really dug into them. and ya changing those paterns u can really get some crazy nice sounds i def am a fan of that. any sugestions on adsr settings? on another note in the screen shot of operator the middle section screen of settings -velocity, key, after touch, pitch bend ex... do people tweek these alot?? ive used operator alot havent really used them other then the 'voices' amount.

the vinyl distortion plugin.. i'd love to use it!! but when i use it i keep hearing it all the time, even when the project has stopped?? how can this be and can i change it?

also, is there any way to add fx in impulse so that it would affect only certain samples and not all of them?

topmo3 wrote:the vinyl distortion plugin.. i'd love to use it!! but when i use it i keep hearing it all the time, even when the project has stopped?? how can this be and can i change it?

Not sure on this myself, but to get around this either automate the volume, or the 'device on/off'?

topmo3 wrote:also, is there any way to add fx in impulse so that it would affect only certain samples and not all of them?

Yes you just have to drag and drop the FX right on the sample you want it to affect.

topmo3 wrote:the vinyl distortion plugin.. i'd love to use it!! but when i use it i keep hearing it all the time, even when the project has stopped?? how can this be and can i change it?

It is an effect that never stops unless you turn it off. Automate the on/off button to have it come in/go out during the song.

MusicsArt wrote:

OfficialDAPT wrote:Try using a square or saw wave and detuning it instead of just a triangle. It will add more grit. Also, play around with how all the oscillators are mixed together by selecting the different pattern of squares and that will change your sound.



Those colored squares at the top.

much thanks will try out tonight.ive used the saws but havent really dug into them. and ya changing those paterns u can really get some crazy nice sounds i def am a fan of that. any sugestions on adsr settings? on another note in the screen shot of operator the middle section screen of settings -velocity, key, after touch, pitch bend ex... do people tweek these alot?? ive used operator alot havent really used them other then the 'voices' amount.

Well the ADSR envelope doesn't really change the core sound. A stands for attack which determines how fast the sound fades in, D is for Decay which is for how long the sound plays for( beep vs. beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep), S stands for Sustain which is what level the sound plays at for the duration you hold it down, and R is for release which stands for how fast the volume fades out once you take your finger off the key. You can mess around with them but I don't really think too many people automate these very drastically. To answer you question about the velocity, key, and after touch. I don't know what the key and after touch ones do but the pitch bend is quite useful.

rights on bro. i kno all about adsr and ya i can see what u mean by saying woulnt change the core sound, jus getting input on how much its usually messed with. and ya pitch bend always fun will have to use more often thanks for reply

OfficialDAPT wrote:

topmo3 wrote:also, is there any way to add fx in impulse so that it would affect only certain samples and not all of them?

Yes you just have to drag and drop the FX right on the sample you want it to affect.

cheers but i cant get it to work! if i drop straight on top of the sample in the fx chain it gives this sign (dunno what it's in english)

Is there any reason you're using impulse and not a drum rack?

yeah, i can't explain how but somehow the samples sound thin and lame when dropped in drum rack as opposed to impulse. i have no idea why because the factory kits that live has sound perfect. just that when i start building one from my own samples is when drum rack sounds shit!

topmo3 wrote:yeah, i can't explain how but somehow the samples sound thin and lame when dropped in drum rack as opposed to impulse. i have no idea why because the factory kits that live has sound perfect. just that when i start building one from my own samples is when drum rack sounds shit!

Are you sure it's the drum rack or just your sample selection/layering abilities

i'm pretty sure that it's the drum rack because the same exact samples sound way different (fuller, louder, bigger) in impulse than in drum rack. a classmate of mine who also uses ableton to make tracks said that he also experiences drum rack to have this problem

topmo3 wrote:i'm pretty sure that it's the drum rack because the same exact samples sound way different (fuller, louder, bigger) in impulse than in drum rack. a classmate of mine who also uses ableton to make tracks said that he also experiences drum rack to have this problem

Could it be that Impulse sets the velocity->volume at 70% by default, whereas it's 0% by default in Sampler/Simpler?

If you own Drum Rack, there is no reason to use it over Impulse.

topmo3 wrote:i'm pretty sure that it's the drum rack because the same exact samples sound way different (fuller, louder, bigger) in impulse than in drum rack. a classmate of mine who also uses ableton to make tracks said that he also experiences drum rack to have this problem

The reason for this is that the sampler inside drum rack has the amp ADSR settings set wrong by default. You have to put the release at full to get the entire length of the sample.

just make one impulse per drum sample then, put FX on the whole impluse

RmoniK wrote:

topmo3 wrote:i'm pretty sure that it's the drum rack because the same exact samples sound way different (fuller, louder, bigger) in impulse than in drum rack. a classmate of mine who also uses ableton to make tracks said that he also experiences drum rack to have this problem

The reason for this is that the sampler inside drum rack has the amp ADSR settings set wrong by default. You have to put the release at full to get the entire length of the sample.

Exactly. For that reason, I choose not to use the drum rack at all for those purposes.

you can change what the default ADSR settings on the simpler/sampler are, along with everything else http://constructaudio.com/2011/07/chang ... ersampler/

symmetricalsounds wrote:you can change what the default ADSR settings on the simpler/sampler are, along with everything else http://constructaudio.com/2011/07/chang ... ersampler/

It's weird cos when I go into 'defaults' where it says to go, the only option is 'slicing'...