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Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:24 am
by qzyphus
Depone wrote:For extra bonus points, Put your speakers on the styrofoam bricks that came with the speaker boxes if you still have them. This has made my bass even tighter and stops the bass travelling thru my table and funking shit up. Its also now at perfect ear level. See this-

DUDE! i totally didn't even think of this after hunting for shiz to put them on for ages

just got my R6As today... i'm in love
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:59 pm
by wirez
wirez wrote:Haha craze starter
Watch, somebody will come in the room and start commenting about how this is ballsing all our mixes up now!
macc wrote:Positioning of the speakers in the room, along with the listening position, is arguably the single most important factor in room acoustics! It's all a single syetem, and placement of the speakers has a HUGE influence on the low frequency response. Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, Measure, listen, test, move, you get it. Spent about ten hours just positioning my speakers.
So far as imaging goes, personally I wouldn't go turning vertically-designed speakers on their sides unless you absolutely must. They are designed vertically for good reason. It might make things sound wider but this is due to diminished time coherency of the incoming wavefront - think like putting a stereo widener on your master output, and the phase problems doing things like that causes. If you want a wider image, then have them farther apart, but the general equilateral triangle principle is usually best adhered to. Remember that they aren't supposed to be there to make everything sound huge; they're there to tell you the truth.
There aren't many horizontally designed speakers around though really; my K+H O300 are, and the Adam S3A... not sure in the more budget end if any of them are...
But the manual said I would get away with it

Lol
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:02 pm
by hubsmoke
i like it cuz it makes my hi's and mid's at the same level as my ears! but i've only been trying it out as an experiment after i visited ultrablack's studio and saw they had it that way, it's kinda neat

Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:52 pm
by Depone
qzyphus wrote:Depone wrote:For extra bonus points, Put your speakers on the styrofoam bricks that came with the speaker boxes if you still have them. This has made my bass even tighter and stops the bass travelling thru my table and funking shit up. Its also now at perfect ear level. See this-

DUDE! i totally didn't even think of this after hunting for shiz to put them on for ages

just got my R6As today... i'm in love
Ahh good shiz man. These helped my mixes out 10fold. My friends Krk's dont even measure up in high mid / high clarity, But be warned these arent the most accurate speakers below like 60hz so you have to get used to how they 'sound' if you know what i mean.
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:52 pm
by deadly_habit
this thread makes my penis soft
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:08 pm
by macc
wirez wrote:
But the manual said I would get away with it

Lol
Don't listen to me... I said vertically designed' in there
If they're designed to be used vertically, they're probably best used vertically, horizontally, horizontally. If they're suitable for both then so be it. But most are made for optimum time-coherency/dispersion one way or another.
Main point is we're looking for the truth, not for 'effects' that make everything wider. We're looking for clarity and pinpoint precision in the centre as well as a big soundfield.

Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:44 am
by Disco Nutter
Gotta love threads like that!
Jason

Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:35 pm
by wirez
macc wrote:wirez wrote:
But the manual said I would get away with it

Lol
Don't listen to me... I said vertically designed' in there
If they're designed to be used vertically, they're probably best used vertically, horizontally, horizontally. If they're suitable for both then so be it. But most are made for optimum time-coherency/dispersion one way or another.
Main point is we're looking for the truth, not for 'effects' that make everything wider. We're looking for clarity and pinpoint precision in the centre as well as a big soundfield.

I always listen to you Macc Daddy Cain
They're back vertical lol.
Probably about to purchase some KRK RP5's, anybody have any advice they think I should know before going ahead and doing so?
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:14 pm
by macc
wirez wrote: Macc wrote:We're looking for clarity and pinpoint precision in the centre as well as a big soundfield.
I always listen to you Macc Daddy Cain
They're back vertical lol.
Don't listen to me

Did you listen to some tracks with stuff dead centre
and wide?
(good example: Jamiroquai's 'Little L', which is an LCR mix and good for this sort of thing whatever you make of the music)
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:45 pm
by wirez
macc wrote:wirez wrote: Macc wrote:We're looking for clarity and pinpoint precision in the centre as well as a big soundfield.
I always listen to you Macc Daddy Cain
They're back vertical lol.
Don't listen to me

Did you listen to some tracks with stuff dead centre
and wide?
(good example: Jamiroquai's 'Little L', which is an LCR mix and good for this sort of thing whatever you make of the music)
Funnily enough I have this album sitting on my desk now so I'll do that.
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:26 am
by macc
Try it both ways, listen carefully, make some notes, all that shit and let us know how you get on

Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:07 pm
by wirez
macc wrote:Try it both ways, listen carefully, make some notes, all that shit and let us know how you get on

I will do this for sure, not tonight though.. Skream and Benga in Brighton
Just about to buy some KRK RP5's Macc, what's your opinion on them from personal experience? I know I should listen to them prior to purchasing them, I will do... But just your opinion?
Re: Monitor Feng Shui...
Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:54 pm
by macc
Not used them mate, sorry.