GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by phrex » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:25 pm

stappard wrote:
vulvavibration wrote:use more than a snare. overlay it with a clap and maybe some white noice.

NOICE
noise.

sorry mate, that i do not speak absolute perfectly english (or absolutly perfect?) :(

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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by kingnaya » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:36 pm

im putting snares over each other and trying too eq each one... but i just seem too be fucking the sound up and makin it shitter then it alreddi is.. im makin killllllllller bassses and killer suonds and sick melodys but im stuk on the drums wat the FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK its pissin me off... wat bout one of the 1st dubstep tunes with no drums.. wat ya think? sum1 help meeeeeeeeeeeeeee....... whose got msn here?

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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by 86. » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:08 am

kingnaya wrote:im putting snares over each other and trying too eq each one... but i just seem too be fucking the sound up and makin it shitter then it alreddi is.. im makin killllllllller bassses and killer suonds and sick melodys but im stuk on the drums wat the FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK its pissin me off... wat bout one of the 1st dubstep tunes with no drums.. wat ya think? sum1 help meeeeeeeeeeeeeee....... whose got msn here?

this is what I do. I don't know how you do your drum patterns but I do this.

I got the snare rack.

5-10 sounds on the snare.

after this it's more of 'what sounds good to you'. I lower the volume on certain sounds I'm layering...change the attack, the pitch...some LFO on some shit, length etc. just a lot of tweaking. I always go for a tr66 snare as the "main real snare". I like that kit. none of the other sounds are "real snares".

I suppose that frequency envelope or whatever in the drum rack itself is like an EQ....but its not really. but I tweak that.

it's about layering different sounding shit as opposed to like 3 straight "snares"

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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by muttleydubs » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:31 am

Google -> Vengeance Drums

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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by decklyn » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:58 am

Yep Layer the sounds and crank up the percussion really loud/have everything else a bit quieter. Lay off compression until you can make a tune sound good without it - it makes shit loud by making shit quiet.

Seems like this is a daily question in here.
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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:06 am

my secret is meanbeat over vengence with a brek hi passed for hats
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Re: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! DRUMMMZZ!!!

Post by nowaysj » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:42 am

If ur having trouble with drums, I don't recommend layering shit up. That is some advanced techniques requiring potentially eq and adsr envelopes and compression. That's some advanced shit if you're at where you say you're at.

Just find good samples. Good samples are samples that sound good.

BUT I've got to say, yeah, you can make sick basses and sick this and sick that, but suck at drums... it's probably because everything is stepping all over your drums. The thing with mixing is that you've got to consider how EVERYTHING works with EVERYTHING else. The more elements you have, the harder that is because everything^2 gets quite large when everything goes up. So reduce the number of elements in your track. KIS.

So... Start with your drums. Write the whole drum section. Check your mixer, make sure the whole beat is peaking at -12db on your master channel. If that sounds quiet to u, turn up your monitors or speakers or headphones. No need to eq anything, just set the drums up, and set their levels right. If the snare is quiet, bring that up, or try another sample. But if you're already at -12db and you bring the snare up, something is going to have to come down in db, don't forget that - that is the primary lesson in mixing - something comes up, something else has to go down. Don't go over -12 db.

Once you've got the drums on lock, THEN start adding your sick bass and wat not. It's gonna be harder to make a sick bass now, because your subbass is gonna be all over the kick, your mid bass is gonna be all over your snare and that metallic grit bass that you love is gonna have it's dick your your hi hat's ear. So now it's time to resynthesize that bass so that the sub bass can get under the kick, the mid can get over the snare, and the grit can get out of the way of the hats.

When you're doing this, you've got to keep you're ear on the beat, if stuff starts disappearing in the beat, something is getting in the way, and needs to get the fuck out of the way - either in time, ie a beat before after, whatever, or needs to get out of the frequency range.

Producing and mixing is hard man, give it time, keep working at it, start turning an ear to how your favorite producers do what they do at a technical level. This will start to make sense. If you've got the musical talent, the production will become easy.
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