Mcat?

[djacroama]

wasnt it something to do with them making it in thailand legally and the thai government made one of the key chemicals illegal which is why the market bombed out (punn intended).

i think thats the reason anyway.

i heard another story about a key "shipment" got busted by customs but that wouldnt explain a drought of the stuff

I'm sure one of the key chemicals in holland got made illegal too, or maybe it was just the thailand story I heard. There's that BZP/mcpp shit being used as a replacement in those pills too, legal in many countries and cheap as fuck to make, so most big chemists make it instead of risking getting sent to jail for mdma production. Bit shit tbh, it's become so fucking rare it's unbelievable

BZP is illegal over here now but its still legal in NZ i think. There was a documentry a while ago (2 months maybe) about legal high's and this "musical journalist that had done it all" went around talking about legal highs and how there not tested for human consumption because there always labled as Plant Food.

He went to jersey/gurnsey (cant remember which one) where, because the customs is so tight on what you can bring in, hardly any illegal drugs get in, so all the kids smoke legal highs and pop legal pills.

it ended with the guy doing salvia and wasnt exactly the most entertaining "trip" to watch... he kinda just sat there.

[pikeymobile]

Yeah a few sites I've seen all label methylone and mephedrone as plant feed, all others just say 'not for human consumption'. Britain made almost every RC illegal annoyingly though, so it's incredibly risky importing anything. Only legal ones that are near decent are methylone and mephedrone. In america you can happily import bulks of 2c-c or 4-aco-dmt without a worry, although some states may have different laws.

[djacroama]

In america you can happily import bulks of 2c-c or 4-aco-dmt without a worry, although some states may have different laws.

<packs his bags and moves to America>

it it illegal over there though, to consume i mean. for a while mushrooms of the magic varity were illegal BUT you could order the spores and packs of them as long as it was for scientific reasons and you didnt put it into tea... that was never the case

is it the same case with the 2c family in the states?

[pikeymobile]

In america you can happily import bulks of 2c-c or 4-aco-dmt without a worry, although some states may have different laws.

<packs his bags and moves to America>

it it illegal over there though, to consume i mean. for a while mushrooms of the magic varity were illegal BUT you could order the spores and packs of them as long as it was for scientific reasons and you didnt put it into tea... that was never the case

is it the same case with the 2c family in the states?

I'm not sure if the law has changed because I haven't read up on anything in the past year, but as most of them were fairly new in popularity as legal highs, they hadn't been classified under the law yet. So it's not that they're legal and the police don't mind, it's just that they're not considered illegal. Britain moved all phenethylamines & tryptamines up in to class A, not sure if America has done anything about any/all of them yet, although I believe certain states may have laws against specific ones, as well as DMT being illegal.

[djacroama]

i just checked a few sites and it seems really easy to buy mephedrone online. i thought it was a case of going through your local dodgy man round the corner, obviously not

might get a g to see what its like seeing as its diiirt cheap.

[pikeymobile]

i just checked a few sites and it seems really easy to buy mephedrone online. i thought it was a case of going through your local dodgy man round the corner, obviously not

might get a g to see what its like seeing as its diiirt cheap.

I'd get methylone personally. I've tried both, methylone felt cleaner, and is a great potentiator for psychedelics. Adds a new level of euphoria. It's essentially mdma but without the rush and gurns. Great if you can get it for cheap, but don't expect it to keep you up all night like good many would. Although it's all about personal preferences I suppose

[.onelove.]

i just checked a few sites and it seems really easy to buy mephedrone online. i thought it was a case of going through your local dodgy man round the corner, obviously not

might get a g to see what its like seeing as its diiirt cheap.

I'd get methylone personally. I've tried both, methylone felt cleaner, and is a great potentiator for psychedelics. Adds a new level of euphoria. It's essentially mdma but without the rush and gurns. Great if you can get it for cheap, but don't expect it to keep you up all night like good many would. Although it's all about personal preferences I suppose

Yeah I was gunna say, Methylone is definitely my preference but many of my mates disagree. It's a lot more subtle, but like you say 'cleaner'. Nice, relaxing, chatty high rather than gurn your face off until 7am. I don't get any comedown or sleep deprivation on it either tbh, will need to stock up soon before it becomes illegal and gets cut with all sorts.

[djacroama]

i just checked a few sites and it seems really easy to buy mephedrone online. i thought it was a case of going through your local dodgy man round the corner, obviously not

might get a g to see what its like seeing as its diiirt cheap.

I'd get methylone personally. I've tried both, methylone felt cleaner, and is a great potentiator for psychedelics. Adds a new level of euphoria. It's essentially mdma but without the rush and gurns. Great if you can get it for cheap, but don't expect it to keep you up all night like good many would. Although it's all about personal preferences I suppose

Yeah I was gunna say, Methylone is definitely my preference but many of my mates disagree. It's a lot more subtle, but like you say 'cleaner'. Nice, relaxing, chatty high rather than gurn your face off until 7am. I don't get any comedown or sleep deprivation on it either tbh, will need to stock up soon before it becomes illegal and gets cut with all sorts.

i might get a G of each then to test the waters. share it with a few mates, see what everyone thinks and if we all get along with it, do a bulk order before, as you say, it become illegal.

[.onelove.]

What I'll say is, if you want to get utterly and blissfully smashed, try a bomb with a mixture of both.

[rliquid]

Not tried MCAT myself, and since reading about all the side-effects i don't think i'll be in a hurry. Methylone on the other hand is pretty good shit, similar to mandy although it doesn't last as long and the gurns are no where near as bad. Picked up a gram with 1st class delivery for £22 today, pm if you want a link.

[drokkr]

There was a documentry a while ago (2 months maybe) about legal high's and this "musical journalist that had done it all" went around talking about legal highs and how there not tested for human consumption because there always labled as Plant Food.
He went to jersey/gurnsey (cant remember which one) where, because the customs is so tight on what you can bring in, hardly any illegal drugs get in, so all the kids smoke legal highs and pop legal pills.

I saw this, it was on BBC 3.

It was Gurnsey(how apt) he went to, they have their own parlament there and also much stricter drug laws and penalties. The smart shops did early morning deliveries too which was interesting. But the bit that really got me was with the scientist guy (who was in another doc on legal highs on current tv) saying that he would rather see people take coke and mdma then these legal highs. He mentioned that we know what "x" amount of coke or mdma will do to a person but the is no testing or history of reaction to the ingredients in these legal highs. The testing of the pill he got was pretty scary - went through a computer program to check the logo on the pill. Nothing on the system. They then broke a bit of for chemical analysis and that came up blank too

I'll stick to real drugs.

[pikeymobile]

There was a documentry a while ago (2 months maybe) about legal high's and this "musical journalist that had done it all" went around talking about legal highs and how there not tested for human consumption because there always labled as Plant Food.
He went to jersey/gurnsey (cant remember which one) where, because the customs is so tight on what you can bring in, hardly any illegal drugs get in, so all the kids smoke legal highs and pop legal pills.

I saw this, it was on BBC 3.

It was Gurnsey(how apt) he went to, they have their own parlament there and also much stricter drug laws and penalties. The smart shops did early morning deliveries too which was interesting. But the bit that really got me was with the scientist guy (who was in another doc on legal highs on current tv) saying that he would rather see people take coke and mdma then these legal highs. He mentioned that we know what "x" amount of coke or mdma will do to a person but the is no testing or history of reaction to the ingredients in these legal highs. The testing of the pill he got was pretty scary - went through a computer program to check the logo on the pill. Nothing on the system. They then broke a bit of for chemical analysis and that came up blank too

I'll stick to real drugs.

Using pill testing kits on dodgy pills (ones containing mcpp/bzp or other piperazines) comes up blank, as in the colour doesn't change. These are highly sensitive reagents that pick up trace amounts of mdxx, speed, dxm, let, 2-ct-x, 2c-x and a few others, but you can't test for piperazines as far as I know. Fucking horrid shit, but all these kids who've only just got in to drugs still buy up all these pills thinking it's the best they can get. Evil, evil stuff. Undertested, incredibly dangerous shit.

[Coppola]

A lot of the sniffs sold at legal high stalls are literally Bath Bombs ground up. A friend who works at a legal high stall at festivals hinted literally from Boots you could buy the stuff.

[drokkr]

There was a documentry a while ago (2 months maybe) about legal high's and this "musical journalist that had done it all" went around talking about legal highs and how there not tested for human consumption because there always labled as Plant Food.
He went to jersey/gurnsey (cant remember which one) where, because the customs is so tight on what you can bring in, hardly any illegal drugs get in, so all the kids smoke legal highs and pop legal pills.

I saw this, it was on BBC 3.

It was Gurnsey(how apt) he went to, they have their own parlament there and also much stricter drug laws and penalties. The smart shops did early morning deliveries too which was interesting. But the bit that really got me was with the scientist guy (who was in another doc on legal highs on current tv) saying that he would rather see people take coke and mdma then these legal highs. He mentioned that we know what "x" amount of coke or mdma will do to a person but the is no testing or history of reaction to the ingredients in these legal highs. The testing of the pill he got was pretty scary - went through a computer program to check the logo on the pill. Nothing on the system. They then broke a bit of for chemical analysis and that came up blank too

I'll stick to real drugs.

Using pill testing kits on dodgy pills (ones containing mcpp/bzp or other piperazines) comes up blank, as in the colour doesn't change. These are highly sensitive reagents that pick up trace amounts of mdxx, speed, dxm, let, 2-ct-x, 2c-x and a few others, but you can't test for piperazines as far as I know. Fucking horrid shit, but all these kids who've only just got in to drugs still buy up all these pills thinking it's the best they can get. Evil, evil stuff. Undertested, incredibly dangerous shit.

On the BBC thing the tested was in a lab not a over the counter kit. The documentary was trying to make the point of how quickly this industry is moving forward and how under-regulated it is, all seems to be very out of control. Far more dangerous than people realise and we won't know how for sometime to come until the damage to brains and bodies has been done. As you say - "Evil, evil stuff. Undertested, incredibly dangerous shit"

[boomstix]

i'm keen for some methylone, anyone able to pm me a supplier who'll deliver to australia?

is it illegal in australia now?

[djacroama]

There was a documentry a while ago (2 months maybe) about legal high's and this "musical journalist that had done it all" went around talking about legal highs and how there not tested for human consumption because there always labled as Plant Food.
He went to jersey/gurnsey (cant remember which one) where, because the customs is so tight on what you can bring in, hardly any illegal drugs get in, so all the kids smoke legal highs and pop legal pills.

I saw this, it was on BBC 3.

It was Gurnsey(how apt) he went to, they have their own parlament there and also much stricter drug laws and penalties. The smart shops did early morning deliveries too which was interesting. But the bit that really got me was with the scientist guy (who was in another doc on legal highs on current tv) saying that he would rather see people take coke and mdma then these legal highs. He mentioned that we know what "x" amount of coke or mdma will do to a person but the is no testing or history of reaction to the ingredients in these legal highs. The testing of the pill he got was pretty scary - went through a computer program to check the logo on the pill. Nothing on the system. They then broke a bit of for chemical analysis and that came up blank too

I'll stick to real drugs.

Using pill testing kits on dodgy pills (ones containing mcpp/bzp or other piperazines) comes up blank, as in the colour doesn't change. These are highly sensitive reagents that pick up trace amounts of mdxx, speed, dxm, let, 2-ct-x, 2c-x and a few others, but you can't test for piperazines as far as I know. Fucking horrid shit, but all these kids who've only just got in to drugs still buy up all these pills thinking it's the best they can get. Evil, evil stuff. Undertested, incredibly dangerous shit.

On the BBC thing the tested was in a lab not a over the counter kit. The documentary was trying to make the point of how quickly this industry is moving forward and how under-regulated it is, all seems to be very out of control. Far more dangerous than people realise and we won't know how for sometime to come until the damage to brains and bodies has been done. As you say - "Evil, evil stuff. Undertested, incredibly dangerous shit"

And all because its labeled as plant food

wonder how well they would help your plants grow though, thats a test id like to see. If they destroy the plants then something might have to change.

I went through a stage of trying quite a few of these legal pills and none did a thing to me. all the happy caps etc brand that said they were just as good as the illegal thing (and more expencive) didnt do a thing to me apart from making me feel like arse in the morning. worse than any come down ive had before (esp after tripple dropping one brand and it still doing nout).

i ordered some methylone and methedrone last night so that should get to me for the weekend. interesting to see if it'll do anything but im quite hesitant about it so going to do small amounts and work my way up.

[scoz]

hope you mean mephedrone. methedrone is as completely different animal, one to avoid at all costs, it is related to PMMA which, in turn, is related to PMA, which has a nickname of Dr Death. There are reports of deaths from Methedrone in Sweden where mephedrone is illegal but methedrone isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Para-methoxyamphetamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Methoxymethcathinone

[djacroama]

well the stuff i've ordered is 4-Methoxymethcathinone, thats what the website said anyway

[mr. lizard]

well the stuff i've ordered is 4-Methoxymethcathinone, thats what the website said anyway

Mephedrone. 4mmc

[scoz]

4-methylmethcathinone is mephedrone
4-Methoxymethcathinone is methedrone

if that's what they've actually sent you, I'd suggest being careful on your dosage. although most people, including sellers by the look of it, don't know that there is a difference and use meph- & meth- interchangeably.