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there are old jamaican masters like lee 'scratch' perry, king tubby, scientist, joe gibbs, solomon jabby and lots of others
then there is this new-school 'future dub' thing from african head charge, brain damage, zenzile, etc
there's electronic dub from disrupt and the likes
techno/minimal dub with rhythm and sound

guess lee perry was right that any kind of music can be made into dub

i would also recommend to see a movie called 'dub echoes', search youtube for a trailer.

yea pablo and scientist
wikid shout

my mind often goes blank on these threads lol

admittedly I'm not so knowledgeable on dub other than the obvious greats. one album that made me do a lil digging further into the history was this joint when it dropped.



Tracklisting
1. Place in the Sun/Fire Corner/Black Man Time – David Isaacs
2. Flat Foot Hustlin’ – Dillinger
3. Jingle Lion – Lee Perry
4. Walk Rastafari Way – Mikey Dread
5. Destruction Sound Battle – Prince Far I
6. Public Jestering – Winston Blake/Lee Perry
7. Better Version – King Tubby
8. Bad Da – Gregory Isaacs
9. Black Magic Woman – Dennis Brown
10. Throne of Blood – Prince Jammy
11. Lottery Spin – Zap Pow
12. Star Trek – Vulcans
13. Want Me Cock – Owen & Leon Silveras
14. Free Man – The Ethiopians
15. Man in the Street – Don Drummond
16. Don’t Deal With Folly – Prince Far I
17. I Love Marijuana – Linval Thompson
18. Stop the Dubbing – Aggrovators
19. Free from Chains – Prince Jazzbo
20. Sensimelia – Barrington Levy
21. Mission Impossible – Roots Radics
22. Golden Chickens
23. Herb Vendor – Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace
24. Babylon Deh Pon Fire – Truth Fact & Correct
25. Shaft – The Chosen Few
26. Sipreano – The Upsetters
27. Girl of My Dreams – Cornell Campbell
28. Rhythm Pleasure – Jerry Lewis
29. Cocaine – Sly & the Revolutionaries
30. Love Life – U-Brown
31. Voice of Jah – Mikey Dread
32. Teacher, Teacher – Dennis Alcapone
33. DJ’s Choice – Dennis Alcapone
34. King Tubby’s Special – King Tubby
35. Reggae Makossa – Brenton Dowe
36. Rougher Version – King Tubby
37. Cool Down Version – King Tubby
38. Space Flight – I-Roy
39. On the Move – Roland Alphonso
40. Guns of Navarone – The Skatalites
41. Popcorn – The Upsetters
42. None Shall Escape Judgement – Johnny Clarke
43. Freedom Style – Trinity
44. Starvation – The Pioneers
45. African People – Jay Boys

My favorite dubs:

Producer - Henry Junjo Lawes ----> Band - Roots Radics ----> Mixer - Scientist

Early '80's style. Slow and deadly.

Heavy!!

Sinus Sawtooth wrote:

serox wrote:Rusko
Caspa
Chase n Status

are bad boy dub producers

this sounds like a lame sarcastic joke, but I've heard that Rusko produced some shit for Irration Steppas...

wouldn't be surprised - he's no mug, and a very talented musician. he does a lot more stuff than just the shit that gets released under the Rusko name

i was on some sizzla thing 2day aswell

youthful_implants wrote:HOW CAN YOU LIKE DUBSTEP AND NOT DUB? sorry but LOL

you may recognise this one.

is it bad i think of prodigy - out of space before even listening properly to the track and appreciating it as dub?

86. wrote:admittedly I'm not so knowledgeable on dub other than the obvious greats. one album that made me do a lil digging further into the history was this joint when it dropped.



Tracklisting
1. Place in the Sun/Fire Corner/Black Man Time – David Isaacs
2. Flat Foot Hustlin’ – Dillinger
3. Jingle Lion – Lee Perry
4. Walk Rastafari Way – Mikey Dread
5. Destruction Sound Battle – Prince Far I
6. Public Jestering – Winston Blake/Lee Perry
7. Better Version – King Tubby
8. Bad Da – Gregory Isaacs
9. Black Magic Woman – Dennis Brown
10. Throne of Blood – Prince Jammy
11. Lottery Spin – Zap Pow
12. Star Trek – Vulcans
13. Want Me Cock – Owen & Leon Silveras
14. Free Man – The Ethiopians
15. Man in the Street – Don Drummond
16. Don’t Deal With Folly – Prince Far I
17. I Love Marijuana – Linval Thompson
18. Stop the Dubbing – Aggrovators
19. Free from Chains – Prince Jazzbo
20. Sensimelia – Barrington Levy
21. Mission Impossible – Roots Radics
22. Golden Chickens
23. Herb Vendor – Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace
24. Babylon Deh Pon Fire – Truth Fact & Correct
25. Shaft – The Chosen Few
26. Sipreano – The Upsetters
27. Girl of My Dreams – Cornell Campbell
28. Rhythm Pleasure – Jerry Lewis
29. Cocaine – Sly & the Revolutionaries
30. Love Life – U-Brown
31. Voice of Jah – Mikey Dread
32. Teacher, Teacher – Dennis Alcapone
33. DJ’s Choice – Dennis Alcapone
34. King Tubby’s Special – King Tubby
35. Reggae Makossa – Brenton Dowe
36. Rougher Version – King Tubby
37. Cool Down Version – King Tubby
38. Space Flight – I-Roy
39. On the Move – Roland Alphonso
40. Guns of Navarone – The Skatalites
41. Popcorn – The Upsetters
42. None Shall Escape Judgement – Johnny Clarke
43. Freedom Style – Trinity
44. Starvation – The Pioneers
45. African People – Jay Boys

Same madlib that produces hip hop and whatnot?

setspeed wrote:

Sinus Sawtooth wrote:

serox wrote:Rusko
Caspa
Chase n Status

are bad boy dub producers

this sounds like a lame sarcastic joke, but I've heard that Rusko produced some shit for Irration Steppas...

wouldn't be surprised - he's no mug, and a very talented musician. he does a lot more stuff than just the shit that gets released under the Rusko name

im not sure if he has produced for iration steppas but soundboy is my target is massively influenced by that steppa style definately.

evil madmen wrote:

86. wrote:admittedly I'm not so knowledgeable on dub other than the obvious greats. one album that made me do a lil digging further into the history was this joint when it dropped.



Tracklisting
1. Place in the Sun/Fire Corner/Black Man Time – David Isaacs
2. Flat Foot Hustlin’ – Dillinger
3. Jingle Lion – Lee Perry
4. Walk Rastafari Way – Mikey Dread
5. Destruction Sound Battle – Prince Far I
6. Public Jestering – Winston Blake/Lee Perry
7. Better Version – King Tubby
8. Bad Da – Gregory Isaacs
9. Black Magic Woman – Dennis Brown
10. Throne of Blood – Prince Jammy
11. Lottery Spin – Zap Pow
12. Star Trek – Vulcans
13. Want Me Cock – Owen & Leon Silveras
14. Free Man – The Ethiopians
15. Man in the Street – Don Drummond
16. Don’t Deal With Folly – Prince Far I
17. I Love Marijuana – Linval Thompson
18. Stop the Dubbing – Aggrovators
19. Free from Chains – Prince Jazzbo
20. Sensimelia – Barrington Levy
21. Mission Impossible – Roots Radics
22. Golden Chickens
23. Herb Vendor – Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace
24. Babylon Deh Pon Fire – Truth Fact & Correct
25. Shaft – The Chosen Few
26. Sipreano – The Upsetters
27. Girl of My Dreams – Cornell Campbell
28. Rhythm Pleasure – Jerry Lewis
29. Cocaine – Sly & the Revolutionaries
30. Love Life – U-Brown
31. Voice of Jah – Mikey Dread
32. Teacher, Teacher – Dennis Alcapone
33. DJ’s Choice – Dennis Alcapone
34. King Tubby’s Special – King Tubby
35. Reggae Makossa – Brenton Dowe
36. Rougher Version – King Tubby
37. Cool Down Version – King Tubby
38. Space Flight – I-Roy
39. On the Move – Roland Alphonso
40. Guns of Navarone – The Skatalites
41. Popcorn – The Upsetters
42. None Shall Escape Judgement – Johnny Clarke
43. Freedom Style – Trinity
44. Starvation – The Pioneers
45. African People – Jay Boys

Same madlib that produces hip hop and whatnot?

same Madlib. what happened was Trojan Records wanted him to go through their archives, select tunes he liked, and do a mix.

86. wrote:

evil madmen wrote:

86. wrote:admittedly I'm not so knowledgeable on dub other than the obvious greats. one album that made me do a lil digging further into the history was this joint when it dropped.



Tracklisting
1. Place in the Sun/Fire Corner/Black Man Time – David Isaacs
2. Flat Foot Hustlin’ – Dillinger
3. Jingle Lion – Lee Perry
4. Walk Rastafari Way – Mikey Dread
5. Destruction Sound Battle – Prince Far I
6. Public Jestering – Winston Blake/Lee Perry
7. Better Version – King Tubby
8. Bad Da – Gregory Isaacs
9. Black Magic Woman – Dennis Brown
10. Throne of Blood – Prince Jammy
11. Lottery Spin – Zap Pow
12. Star Trek – Vulcans
13. Want Me Cock – Owen & Leon Silveras
14. Free Man – The Ethiopians
15. Man in the Street – Don Drummond
16. Don’t Deal With Folly – Prince Far I
17. I Love Marijuana – Linval Thompson
18. Stop the Dubbing – Aggrovators
19. Free from Chains – Prince Jazzbo
20. Sensimelia – Barrington Levy
21. Mission Impossible – Roots Radics
22. Golden Chickens
23. Herb Vendor – Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace
24. Babylon Deh Pon Fire – Truth Fact & Correct
25. Shaft – The Chosen Few
26. Sipreano – The Upsetters
27. Girl of My Dreams – Cornell Campbell
28. Rhythm Pleasure – Jerry Lewis
29. Cocaine – Sly & the Revolutionaries
30. Love Life – U-Brown
31. Voice of Jah – Mikey Dread
32. Teacher, Teacher – Dennis Alcapone
33. DJ’s Choice – Dennis Alcapone
34. King Tubby’s Special – King Tubby
35. Reggae Makossa – Brenton Dowe
36. Rougher Version – King Tubby
37. Cool Down Version – King Tubby
38. Space Flight – I-Roy
39. On the Move – Roland Alphonso
40. Guns of Navarone – The Skatalites
41. Popcorn – The Upsetters
42. None Shall Escape Judgement – Johnny Clarke
43. Freedom Style – Trinity
44. Starvation – The Pioneers
45. African People – Jay Boys

Same madlib that produces hip hop and whatnot?

same Madlib. what happened was Trojan Records wanted him to go through their archives, select tunes he liked, and do a mix.

Well then I definitely need to check this out

grooki wrote:I am always amazed at the number of people in dubstep who havn't listened to dub. I guess because I listened to it before I got into dubstep it's always been in the back of my mind when I 've been producing, I think I'm always inclined towards that sort of sound. The way the old guys (and new people too, but I won't count them ) would make their sound so stripped back but full at the same time is amazing.

Tripwire, since you started listening recently, have you recognised techniques that people use in dubstep in the old dub?

mostly some delay techniques and some similar drum patterns , i havnt heard much im bout to go through this thread and listen around though.

definitely more influence on the earilier shit and the deeper stuff in general.

but still I don't wanna paint all the aggressive producers with the same brush

Oh yeah, don't forget Jah Thomas on the production, Roots Radics on the instruments and Scientist on the controls. Dope! Soul Syndicate was another great band, not to mention Sly & Robbie.

Linval Thompson had some nice productions too.

Bunny Lee with King Tubby for the classic ish.

Prince Jammy made some bad ass dubs also.

These are some of the roots of so much music that came later, conceptually speaking..... Dub has about 40 years of history, seen?.

DDDUUUUUUBBBBB!

king tubby is on my daily playlist for an obvious starter

mks wrote:Oh yeah, don't forget Jah Thomas on the production, Roots Radics on the instruments and Scientist on the controls. Dope! :

jah Thomas and the Roots Radics dubbed by King Tubby, - King Tubby's Hidden Treasure - fantastic album. And, it is really on the dubstep tip (although made in the 70s or so) with the huge kick and snare march.
Augustus Pablo's melodies are amazing, and whoever produced him did such an awesome job.
Burning Spear's dubs are good too, but more on the musical tip, less spacey. Amazing groove though
For some modern dub, check out the dub album of the Gorillaz first album, I think it was done by Space Ape - the production is just incredible, and it is earth shaking

Sharmaji wrote:Congos, in the heart of the congos.

that isnt dub though.. still one of the best reggae albums ever made.

the shit king tubby did with yabby u is great, along with the skatalites, augustus, blah blah blah... a lot of its reallly great.

go on youtube and search rastafari dub king tubby, that song has a great vocal on it. then go on to king tubbys myspace and listen to roots dub, roots dub is one of the best king tubby songs i have ever heard.

a lot of dub is boring and songs like every other dub, same with dubstep and any other genre, you just need to find the good shit.