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Re: Biometric Verification

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Re: Biometric Verification

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alien pimp wrote:and even less relevance if you are sent in court to be convicted, not judged
What do you mean by that? Surely you get "judged" in court? Isn't that what they're for?
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Re: Biometric Verification

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alien pimp wrote:and even less relevance if you are sent in court to be convicted, not judged
What do you mean by that? Surely you get "judged" in court? Isn't that what they're for?
yeah, and the police is there to protect you, and the politicians are a bunch of rich guys dying to sacrifice their time to improve yours and so on
And what about juries? Though, I know that we've had one case without one recently.
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Re: Biometric Verification

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Pi-Krust wrote:Surely this is optional and at your own discretion,need to check on that though :J: :A: .Much rather have the hassle of having to carry I.D everywhere than having my biological data stored on some giant server somewhere without my consent.
Depends a lot on how they're doing it really.

I can't believe that this is some nationwide biometric database where cornershops are in the front line of the New World Order, primarily because that would cost fucking millions, be massive news, and be all over the papers. Seems more likely that your local shop has bought a gizmo that stores the data locally so that if you come in regularly you don't have to bother carrying ID. Although it's hard to imagine the advantages of that over the advanced facial recognition software known as "remembering what your regular customers look like."

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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by firky » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:36 pm

Ahh but if you're selected to be a jury member you're subject to voir dire which in the past has caused some friction. It's not as random as we may like to think.
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Re: Biometric Verification

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magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:and even less relevance if you are sent in court to be convicted, not judged
What do you mean by that? Surely you get "judged" in court? Isn't that what they're for?
yeah, and the police is there to protect you, and the politicians are a bunch of rich guys dying to sacrifice their time to improve yours and so on
And what about juries? Though, I know that we've had one case without one recently.
if you tell a jury you've been in brighton and then the prosecutor comes saying they've found your print in a tobacco shop 20m near the crime scene in london the process ends there
not like getting a jury to do the do would be harder, they have fingerprints too
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Re: Biometric Verification

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Pi-Krust wrote:Surely this is optional and at your own discretion,need to check on that though :J: :A: .Much rather have the hassle of having to carry I.D everywhere than having my biological data stored on some giant server somewhere without my consent.
Depends a lot on how they're doing it really.

I can't believe that this is some nationwide biometric database where cornershops are in the front line of the New World Order, primarily because that would cost fucking millions, be massive news, and be all over the papers. Seems more likely that your local shop has bought a gizmo that stores the data locally so that if you come in regularly you don't have to bother carrying ID. Although it's hard to imagine the advantages of that over the advanced facial recognition software known as "remembering what your regular customers look like."
how much did cctv cost?
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by magma » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:39 pm

alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:and even less relevance if you are sent in court to be convicted, not judged
What do you mean by that? Surely you get "judged" in court? Isn't that what they're for?
yeah, and the police is there to protect you, and the politicians are a bunch of rich guys dying to sacrifice their time to improve yours and so on
And what about juries? Though, I know that we've had one case without one recently.
if you tell a jury you've been in brighton and then the prosecutor comes saying they've found your print in a tobacco shop 20m near the crime scene in london the process ends there
not like getting a jury to do the do would be harder, they have fingerprints too
Right; so if they've got enough evidence to convict you beyong reasonable doubt, the jury's decision is made for it?

Seems about right to me. I imagine they'd have something pretty substantial to go along with finger prints in a public convenience store... reasonable doubt is a bitch.
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by firky » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:40 pm

slothrop wrote:
Pi-Krust wrote:Surely this is optional and at your own discretion,need to check on that though :J: :A: .Much rather have the hassle of having to carry I.D everywhere than having my biological data stored on some giant server somewhere without my consent.
Depends a lot on how they're doing it really.

I can't believe that this is some nationwide biometric database where cornershops are in the front line of the New World Order, primarily because that would cost fucking millions, be massive news, and be all over the papers.
It's the thin end of the wedge, it's nto the data-mining at a corner shop that is the problem but the desensitisation to our biometric data being taken routinely by something as small and as inconspicuous as the corner shop. It's little baby steps. CCTV is a prime example of this, CCTV cameras used to cost thousands of pounds now you can buy them for a tenner online. What started off as a CCTV camera in a bank has ended up with them in their thousands in every town and city. Also the UK has the largest DNA database per-head than any country in the world. The will, money and motive is there.

And yes it is all over the news, and the papers, and the money doesn't really exist anyway, it just gets circulated around.
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Re: Biometric Verification

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the money comes FROM YOU!

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Re: Biometric Verification

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What have I started?!
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by alien pimp » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:50 pm

that would change everything yeah
let's put our laughing gas masks and pretend instead of realizing, yeah, it's easier for everyone, especially for the people being killed and jailed for cash and power
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by Pi-Krust » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:56 pm

firky wrote:
slothrop wrote:
Pi-Krust wrote:Surely this is optional and at your own discretion,need to check on that though :J: :A: .Much rather have the hassle of having to carry I.D everywhere than having my biological data stored on some giant server somewhere without my consent.
Depends a lot on how they're doing it really.

I can't believe that this is some nationwide biometric database where cornershops are in the front line of the New World Order, primarily because that would cost fucking millions, be massive news, and be all over the papers.
It's the thin end of the wedge, it's nto the data-mining at a corner shop that is the problem but the desensitisation to our biometric data being taken routinely by something as small and as inconspicuous as the corner shop. It's little baby steps. CCTV is a prime example of this, CCTV cameras used to cost thousands of pounds now you can buy them for a tenner online. What started off as a CCTV camera in a bank has ended up with them in their thousands in every town and city. Also the UK has the largest DNA database perhead than any country in the world.

And yes it is all over the news, and the papers, and the money doesn't really exist anyway, it just gets circulated around.
Need to clarify my point a little i think,I don't believe that there is one giant server somewhere where all biometric data is stored and collated for the benefit of the NWO.I'm more worried about Individual corporations and organisations and what they'd do with the data and whom they might pass it on to.Fer instance if supermarkets had a record of your fingerprint and you had to scan your finger every time you shopped there,then surely they'd be able to build up a comprehensive profile of your shopping habits in order to target and market stuff at you better.Might seem trivial to some but i'm not that keen on how supermarkets operate and wish to help them as little as possible.Sorry if i don't make total sense but i have had a few light ales today :D .
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by alien pimp » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:05 am

Pi-Krust wrote:
firky wrote:
slothrop wrote:
Pi-Krust wrote:Surely this is optional and at your own discretion,need to check on that though :J: :A: .Much rather have the hassle of having to carry I.D everywhere than having my biological data stored on some giant server somewhere without my consent.
Depends a lot on how they're doing it really.

I can't believe that this is some nationwide biometric database where cornershops are in the front line of the New World Order, primarily because that would cost fucking millions, be massive news, and be all over the papers.
It's the thin end of the wedge, it's nto the data-mining at a corner shop that is the problem but the desensitisation to our biometric data being taken routinely by something as small and as inconspicuous as the corner shop. It's little baby steps. CCTV is a prime example of this, CCTV cameras used to cost thousands of pounds now you can buy them for a tenner online. What started off as a CCTV camera in a bank has ended up with them in their thousands in every town and city. Also the UK has the largest DNA database perhead than any country in the world.

And yes it is all over the news, and the papers, and the money doesn't really exist anyway, it just gets circulated around.
Need to clarify my point a little i think,I don't believe that there is one giant server somewhere where all biometric data is stored and collated for the benefit of the NWO.I'm more worried about Individual corporations and organisations and what they'd do with the data and whom they might pass it on to.Fer instance if supermarkets had a record of your fingerprint and you had to scan your finger every time you shopped there,then surely they'd be able to build up a comprehensive profile of your shopping habits in order to target and market stuff at you better.Might seem trivial to some but i'm not that keen on how supermarkets operate and wish to help them as little as possible.Sorry if i don't make total sense but i have had a few light ales today :D .
that's for sure
but what you perceive as individual corps and orgs might not be exactly that
how many people own 90%+ of US media?
in how many worldwide banks RBS has shares?
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by firky » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:14 am

Pi-Krust wrote: Need to clarify my point a little i think,I don't believe that there is one giant server somewhere where all biometric data is stored and collated for the benefit of the NWO.I'm more worried about Individual corporations and organisations and what they'd do with the data and whom they might pass it on to.Fer instance if supermarkets had a record of your fingerprint and you had to scan your finger every time you shopped there,then surely they'd be able to build up a comprehensive profile of your shopping habits in order to target and market stuff at you better.Might seem trivial to some but i'm not that keen on how supermarkets operate and wish to help them as little as possible.Sorry if i don't make total sense but i have had a few light ales today :D .
Can't find the article online but there was something a few years ago about Biffa (refuse collection) and Tesco coming up with a deal. Basically Biffa would scan people's rubbish as they collected it for RFID tags and send this data back to Tesco who then would produce a map of people's spending habits and trends in the area down to an individual street area..
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by alien pimp » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:20 am

find the thread where i posted about how US gov is buying databasis from private companies because the law doesn't allow them to harvest the data themselves, nobody found it relevant

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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by wormcode » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:21 am

I'll never use my prints or anything physical, besides a driver license. Especially if it's digital. What's next, retinal scans to get into clubs.

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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by USTD » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:29 am

Blacksheep bar (Where Croydub is held).

If they ban you, the bouncers don't have to remember your face, it's all on machine and you don't have to show ID etc when you go.
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Re: Biometric Verification

Post by alien pimp » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:59 am

wormcode wrote:I'll never use my prints or anything physical, besides a driver license. Especially if it's digital. What's next, retinal scans to get into clubs.
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