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Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:02 pm
by Basic A
gnome wrote:eops wrote:Criminal justice bill outlaws music defined by a repetitive beat from being played to more than 10 people in the open air ... I marched - I signed petitions ... They made it law ... What can you do ...
Really?
Technically most forests are owned by the councils so it is trespassing if they tell you to leave
Not sure he was serious man.
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:04 pm
by s i c k b o y
Basic A wrote:gnome wrote:eops wrote:Criminal justice bill outlaws music defined by a repetitive beat from being played to more than 10 people in the open air ... I marched - I signed petitions ... They made it law ... What can you do ...
Really?
Technically most forests are owned by the councils so it is trespassing if they tell you to leave
Not sure he was serious man.
he definately was
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:07 pm
by step correct
..oh, Always have extra gas for the generator in case people want to keep partying and keep a whizkid soundboy type kid around to iron out your Tech Difficulties on the fly.. Shit will happen, speakers will cut out, records will collect dust, laptops will crash...etc.. Have a person that knows what they are doing electroincs and audio wise around a lot. Buy them some really good beer and introduce them to a lot of women.

Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:11 pm
by eops
s i c k b o y wrote:Basic A wrote:gnome wrote:eops wrote:Criminal justice bill outlaws music defined by a repetitive beat from being played to more than 10 people in the open air ... I marched - I signed petitions ... They made it law ... What can you do ...
Really?
Technically most forests are owned by the councils so it is trespassing if they tell you to leave
Not sure he was serious man.
he definately was
I definitely am ... one of the worst pieces of legislation ever constructed - Thank you John Major you witless grey fuck
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:13 pm
by Basic A
So wait, you have to mean you need to get permits, because the way I see it,t hats all flawed. Ive seen recent UK outdoor events, how are they happening?
And isnt repetive beat n person count kind of retarded? so are you saying I can be all alone in the open air and listening to 100,000 watt system? What if the musics not a repetetive beat? Cheezface anyone?
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:18 pm
by step correct
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:23 pm
by s i c k b o y
it is true that the law uses repetetive beat to categorise and number of people to determine if it is illegal or not. basically it boils down to the fact that illegal raves cannot be taxed unlike legal club nights - which is why the UK government clamped down on it.
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:23 pm
by setspeed
Basic A wrote:So wait, you have to mean you need to get permits, because the way I see it,t hats all flawed. Ive seen recent UK outdoor events, how are they happening?
And isnt repetive beat n person count kind of retarded? so are you saying I can be all alone in the open air and listening to 100,000 watt system? What if the musics not a repetetive beat? Cheezface anyone?
yeah you need a licence. you'll also, therefore, need to comply with fire regulations, blah blah blah.
technically i believe the Criminal Justice Bill states that anything over 10 people constitutes a rave (was 100 originally, since lowered IIRC) and yeah, basically the 'repetitive beats' clause means that you can classify anything at all as a 'rave'.
there were riots when the law was passed, and it's generally considered to be one of the low points of the 1990s tory govt. the tories are like the british republicans

Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:00 pm
by Basic A
setspeed wrote:
'repetitive beats' clause means that you can classify anything at all as a 'rave'.
No sir. We, as Americans, are going to send you this thing weve had in the basement for a while, but It hink youg guys might be able to use it... Its called a Cheezface, its just what you need to loophole this law out of existance. Itt is a bizarre creature impervious to rhythm... with a contempt for all things restricting the right of speech and a love for all things strange...
http://www.myspace.com/cheezfacemusic ... your not going to enjoy that... eh maybe halibut carcuss...
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:21 pm
by gnome
step correct wrote:
Best
shit
ever

Omg that looks like amazing fun. I want one
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:26 pm
by step correct
Outdoor parties are the staple in this area of Cali... in the Summer there can be up to three going on one night alone. .

Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:49 pm
by evil madmen
step correct wrote:Outdoor parties are the staple in this area of Cali... in the Summer there can be up to three going on one night alone. .

That sounds fantastic
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:13 am
by narcissus
ah yes, forest renegades!! soo fun, just an awesome atmosphere. hope it goes well aesthetics, hope ya don't get rolled up on!

Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:00 am
by LordBid
In Montana the only parties we have are renegade and they are awesome!
* might I add that Montana sucks for the most part
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:26 am
by Basic A
See, in Pitt/Ohio/West Virginia, were all about the 3 day outdoor festival... You kick a farmer a cut of the gate for using his cornfeild, he plows out bout an acre or two of corn away, bring in the sound/lighting/equip rigs, throw em up under some shitty little picnic tents, invite everyone from the3 surrounding states to bring hier tents n sleep in the cornfeild next to the music for 3 days.
Cleanups a bitch though.
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:33 am
by ÆIUM
Most police departments themselves do not want to roll in on the renegade parties out in the forest or countryside. From the police's point of view, for the most part the parties are harmless, because everyone involved is off in the forest or countryside and not causing a headache for them in the downtown areas.
What I have heard, is that you need to watch out for club owners and the like, club management. If a club owner hears about a renegade party like this happening, and maybe he has been having a bad week, he might be inclined to call it in. These clubs owners pay taxes and stuff, so once they start to enter the picture they have a bit of weight to throw around and they might be able to convince the police to make it their problem.
The less you promote for the party, the less likely it is that this will happen. If the parties are on the smaller side, I doubt even club owners will have too big of a problem.
That said, I have very little experience running these things, this is just what I have heard.
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:45 am
by narcissus
that's why ya keep it on the dl

Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:46 am
by Basic A
ÆIUM wrote:What I have heard, is that you need to watch out for club owners and the like, club management. If a club owner hears about a renegade party like this happening, and maybe he has been having a bad week, he might be inclined to call it in. These clubs owners pay taxes and stuff, so once they start to enter the picture they have a bit of weight to throw around and they might be able to convince the police to make it their problem.
Ths... Ive heard tale around here that the reason some more underground events go down is because esatablished promoters, club owners, Djs scorned on bookings, ect. Get a sht n call in... Its fucked up, but its the subtle politics of underground music I guess, then again, like I said, tale not truth, so IDK how much of it you can hold to heart.
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:48 am
by aesthetics

Thanks for all the advice!
This forum has the best people ever and I'm serious.
Was still wondering about what size/quality speakers I would need.
In watts (I know there are like 200W speakers and 500W speakers).
What should their range be, active or passive, etc...
I got the generator and an assload of gas, the only thing missing is the speakers
I'm not worried about the lazy ass excuse for a police force here coming out to the middle of the fucking forest to shut a down a rave.
Worst case everyone will beat the living fuck out of them.
I am keeping it on the DL and the only advertising it's going to get is word of mouth and a few posters given out to close friends so people can verify it's really happening.
The thing is called "Bassforest" - coincidentally I was just thinking to myself that day that I never get creative with names
So speaker tips

and much love to all of you!
Re: Setting up a Rave
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:00 pm
by eops
aesthetics wrote:
Thanks for all the advice!
This forum has the best people ever and I'm serious.
Was still wondering about what size/quality speakers I would need.
In watts (I know there are like 200W speakers and 500W speakers).
What should their range be, active or passive, etc...
I got the generator and an assload of gas, the only thing missing is the speakers
I'm not worried about the lazy ass excuse for a police force here coming out to the middle of the fucking forest to shut a down a rave.
Worst case everyone will beat the living fuck out of them.
I am keeping it on the DL and the only advertising it's going to get is word of mouth and a few posters given out to close friends so people can verify it's really happening.
The thing is called "Bassforest" - coincidentally I was just thinking to myself that day that I never get creative with names
So speaker tips

and much love to all of you!
You need a little extra power if you are outside - 3-5k should be enough to service a couple hundred ravers ... if your are semi enclosed you can go smaller
Prolly best to use non active with an amp which has plenty of power to spare - Keep a really close eye on that amp tho or some loon will twist it to eleven
Of course 100k mega turbo sound bastard rig would be nice
