Man destroys the reason behind music

[gnome]

just stfu about who wrote it and listen to the extracts in the link. The first, especially, is an astonishing composition. That doesn't change because a very clever man (who happens to be a really good composer anyway) wrote a program to write it with him, instead of sitting down with pen and paper.

Actually track 2s a bit shit tbh

[__________]

good on him I say.
I'm surprised someone hasn't coded a machine which can make gabba yet. That would be easy!

[lushman]

really interesting article, not quite sure what I think about it yet - but it raises some interesting points

[symmetricalsounds]

i just think people are getting overly touchy about it because they think it attacks the idea of having a soul instead of realising we are just biological machines, regardless of whether you want to believe we're something more than that or not. people talk about music affecting their hearts but the heart is just a pump, it doesn't affect your heart mate its all in your head.

[gnome]

i just think people are getting overly touchy about it because they think it attacks the idea of having a soul instead of realising we are just biological machines, regardless of whether you want to believe we're something more than that or not. people talk about music affecting their hearts but the heart is just a pump, it doesn't affect your heart mate its all in your head.

What about conveying emotions? Surely there something different from a so called "soul" and something biological?

[symmetricalsounds]

emotions are all just rooted in language, if we never had language would we have emotion? we probably would have an idea of emotion but wouldn't think of it in the same way we do. each emotion can be explained as particular combinations of chemical reactions in the brain, so surely that's just another mechanical reaction?

[gnome]

emotions are all just rooted in language, if we never had language would we have emotion? we probably would have an idea of emotion but wouldn't think of it in the same way we do. each emotion can be explained as particular combinations of chemical reactions in the brain, so surely that's just another mechanical reaction?

Yes we would have emotion. Your saying deaf people can't feel sadness or guilt or fear or anger? Yes it is another chemical reaction but it creates a feeling that we just don't shrug off. It isnt like the idea of a soul. We can be sure we have emotions because we feel them

[symmetricalsounds]

deaf people still have language, and as my post said course without language we would still have emotion but it just wouldn't be quite the same. like i said, its just another mechanical process there's nothing mysterious about it.

[deadly_habit]

interesting but imo it lacks creativity aspect to it or uniqueness
still can tell its made by a program, which is not a bad thing

[ras-claat]

quite a kewl thing...
shows why there's no such thing as formulas to music.
as stated previously, the computer follows rules, which emerged over the centuries.
but trying not to break these, there will be no new ideas, so basically it's repetition not invention...

of course there are some rules, given by the physiology of the human ear but that's about it.
what's satanic noise today will be the sound of progression!

[continuumdnb]

interesting but imo it lacks creativity aspect to it or uniqueness
still can tell its made by a program, which is not a bad thing

At one Santa Cruz concert, the program notes neglected to mention that Emily Howell wasn’t a human being, and a chemistry professor and music aficionado in the audience described the performance of a Howell composition as one of the most moving experiences of his musical life. Six months later, when the same professor attended a lecture of Cope’s on Emily Howell and heard the same concert played from a recording, Cope remembers him saying, “You know, that’s pretty music, but I could tell absolutely, immediately that it was computer-composed. There’s no heart or soul or depth to the piece.”

[symmetricalsounds]

interesting but imo it lacks creativity aspect to it or uniqueness
still can tell its made by a program, which is not a bad thing

i'm not so sure, heard stuff with less emotion written by people. not saying its amazing but i've definitely heard stuff with less "heart" written by people.

interesting point that i was talking about just now with gnome about emotion. i just watched this little video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6tB2KiZuk now it definitely engaged me emotionally, i loved the silly simplicity of it and it did move me. the fact i know that the sounds i heard triggered a mechanical reaction in my mind to make me feel that emotion doesn't make the emotion less "real" or whatever, it doesn't make the moment less special.

[Hurtdeer]

y'all act like autechre weren't already basically doing this and they where rather good at it

[jolly wailer]

anyone see this special on timestretching Beethoven's 9th symphony over 24 hours?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... yId=858257


mindblowing rising ambience

[back2onett]

it is pretty amazing, whether or not having a 'soul' has anything to do with making music it's just a computer mimicking human behaviour, I really doubt any computer ever could compose a masterpiece bcause it thinks it sounds good.

still it is a little worrying...

human composers = obselete, next on the agenda DESTROY HUMANITY

[nowaysj]

next on the agenda DESTROY HUMANITY

I assure you humanity will destroy humanity before the machines are smart enough to do so.

[gnome]

anyone see this special on timestretching Beethoven's 9th symphony over 24 hours?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... yId=858257


mindblowing rising ambience

Indeed I Believe it was done with Pauls sound stretch which is an amazing audio stretching tool.
Check it
http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/

[jolly wailer]

dam bro thats sick.

[b166er]

Yeah but that fuckin AI aint gonna make Trancecore Speedbass, now is it?
Double bass kickdrums @390 bpm F-fuckin-TEE-Dubya!!!

[gnome]

No they wont that will be the key to destroying the robot race