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Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:36 am**

i had to suffer when i was your age not all that long ago mind im 19, but back to my point...

if i had to suffer i think its only right that you should

*evil laugh*

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:42 am**

what bout the 13+ onez den, HUH... no one care abouts them and the dub undergrads, little youngstas n such

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:01 am**

Because a bunch of kids usually ruin the fun, plus there's alcohol to serve!

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:31 am**

Liquor license is the biggest reason you're age category is excluded. If a underaged kid were to get his hands on some liquor by a friend who's just trying to "share" or has no respect for rules the venue could be in a lot of trouble. Take that same kid, put him behind the wheel of a car on his way home. Crash. Who do you think that comes back out on? That venue would lose their liquor license.

Another reason, not saying it's you but you're crowd does carry this mentality. The wannabe gangster mentality. This isn't the place to look for a fight. At that age it is common though because kids will try to socially adapt to anything to make themselves look cool when you really look just a fool.

I know in Southern California, one of the big reasons we stopped all ages dubstep parties was due to graffiti. See second comment for thoughts on that.

Sorry man, the rest ruin it for you but you can't blame a venue for protecting their own ass.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:45 am**

i thought this thread was gonna be about 16 gigs worth of rare unreleased dubs or something.....go me.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:15 am**

statiktrax wrote:Liquor license is the biggest reason you're age category is excluded. If a underaged kid were to get his hands on some liquor by a friend who's just trying to "share" or has no respect for rules the venue could be in a lot of trouble. Take that same kid, put him behind the wheel of a car on his way home. Crash. Who do you think that comes back out on? That venue would lose their liquor license.

Another reason, not saying it's you but you're crowd does carry this mentality. The wannabe gangster mentality. This isn't the place to look for a fight. At that age it is common though because kids will try to socially adapt to anything to make themselves look cool when you really look just a fool.

I know in Southern California, one of the big reasons we stopped all ages dubstep parties was due to graffiti. See second comment for thoughts on that.

Sorry man, the rest ruin it for you but you can't blame a venue for protecting their own ass.

agreed, but beyond the license itself, its also a liability insurance thing. venues here in new york city for example, that have 18 and younger events (regardless if alcohol is served or not) pay a shitload more in liability insurance, because insurers are calculating that underagers rave their head off more frequently and don't know their limits...(which is the truth).

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:17 am**

if a kid OD's in a venue, the liability is on the venue, not the promoters or dj's. this came in with the rave act in america. general clampdown.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:43 am**

Its discrimination against the young. We must revolt.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:05 am**

spire wrote:i thought this thread was gonna be about 16 gigs worth of rare unreleased dubs or something.....go me.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:05 am**

beerz wrote:i got a star travel card from sta travel. they didn't ask for any proof of age so you could just lie and tell them a fake birthday.
It cost 7 quid and worked everywhere in manchetser. got into warehouse project, sankeys, paradise factory....then some scottish bouncer who was on every door clocked on but i was 18 then so it was live.

I think 16+ gigs are rare cos 1. its a hassle 2. it gives off the image (to me) that the night is more commercial and less about the music ....more about making as much money as possible by maximizing people through the door. college kids are a massive market cos every1 still chills in a massive group b4 they all go off to uni etc

yeh can you set a link to that site and the page.peace

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:09 am**

rob booth wrote:44 presents (which I am happily affiliated with) are currently doing gigs catering for 16+

anti-pop consortium next .... but being aged 16, the majority will say ..who the fuck ..lol

very true. anybody who is 16 now won't know what anti-pop is. or project blowed, solesides, etc.

wow i feel old now.

goodnight!

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:32 pm**

kianm wrote:
beerz wrote:i got a star travel card from sta travel. they didn't ask for any proof of age so you could just lie and tell them a fake birthday.
It cost 7 quid and worked everywhere in manchetser. got into warehouse project, sankeys, paradise factory....then some scottish bouncer who was on every door clocked on but i was 18 then so it was live.

I think 16+ gigs are rare cos 1. its a hassle 2. it gives off the image (to me) that the night is more commercial and less about the music ....more about making as much money as possible by maximizing people through the door. college kids are a massive market cos every1 still chills in a massive group b4 they all go off to uni etc
yeh can you set a link to that site and the page.peace

http://www.statravel.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg ... C-card.htm

i did it in the shop though....

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:00 pm**

fbom wrote:
rob booth wrote:44 presents (which I am happily affiliated with) are currently doing gigs catering for 16+

anti-pop consortium next .... but being aged 16, the majority will say ..who the fuck ..lol

very true. anybody who is 16 now won't know what anti-pop is. or project blowed, solesides, etc.

wow i feel old now.

goodnight!

I know Anti-Pop Consortium and I'm 16? But I'm in the minority.

I think that the problem is that there are so few 16 year olds that are proper heads. I mean I have so many friends who claim to like Dubstep but really they listen to Rusko and Mt. Eden.

Rinse have put on a few nights which are 16+ which I think is a really good idea, but the lineups didn't look that good. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=1 ... 22&index=1 I wouldn't really want to go to that. When I had a chat with Geeneus and Sarah, I seem to remember them saying that the youngas nights weren't that successful, or just weren't worth holding or something.

The question is, do we want to go to a 16+ night with shit DJs? Because that's all we're going to get until we turn 18.

I need to get a fake ID Asap though, not just for clubs (which I don't think they work very well at to be honest) but for the Off License!

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:21 pm**

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:28 pm**

beerz wrote:
kianm wrote:
beerz wrote:i got a star travel card from sta travel. they didn't ask for any proof of age so you could just lie and tell them a fake birthday.
It cost 7 quid and worked everywhere in manchetser. got into warehouse project, sankeys, paradise factory....then some scottish bouncer who was on every door clocked on but i was 18 then so it was live.

I think 16+ gigs are rare cos 1. its a hassle 2. it gives off the image (to me) that the night is more commercial and less about the music ....more about making as much money as possible by maximizing people through the door. college kids are a massive market cos every1 still chills in a massive group b4 they all go off to uni etc
yeh can you set a link to that site and the page.peace
http://www.statravel.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg ... C-card.htm

i did it in the shop though....

thanks alot

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:04 pm**

inkognito wrote:Ur 16!! Go play counter-strike or something

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:06 pm**

these badbreed events are 16+. i get event invites on facebook from them all the time but fuck going to things those things when im 21, need a bar lol. you should check it out if your under 18 tho.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/page ... 153?ref=mf

theres a couple others aswell, but if u look for promoters in that scene im sure they will guide you to the right places.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:57 pm**

It's cos 70% of under 18's are douche-cigarettes, and would just ruin raves, and like try and "windmill" and "mosh" at a Dubstep night.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:32 pm**

because alcohol is good, and underage chicks arent!

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:51 pm**

dg. wrote:because alcohol is good, and underage chicks arent!

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