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Project EX wrote:Finished mine already Very pleased with the result. I'll leave it for a week and then improve if I feel it needs it.

Send to PM when done!

im def entering this 1 (first time)....just gota coupla questions. am i allowed to take a splice of a sample(from the pack) & turn it into a synth? bin practicing ma sidechaining... most sounds wont seem like they come from the pack, but 100% guaranteed they are. Is this cool?? like i dont want people saying i didnt use just the pack & shiit!chea

^ That is some genuine paranoid thinking. I'm with you on that. I've pulled single wave forms from the packs to make synths. Personally I thinnnnnnnnnk it's cheating, but whatever, you can do it.

HAACK wrote:

Project EX wrote:Finished mine already Very pleased with the result. I'll leave it for a week and then improve if I feel it needs it.

Send to PM when done!

Will do, still got time till the 11th

nowaysj wrote:^ That is some genuine paranoid thinking. I'm with you on that. I've pulled single wave forms from the packs to make synths. Personally I thinnnnnnnnnk it's cheating, but whatever, you can do it.

Yeah, technically there's nothing wrong with it because its just an extension of cutting a sample and putting it in a sampler, but... then whats the point of using samples at all

My point exactly.

then how do you guys make your basses if your not picking out sine waves and throwing them in samplers?

soulshynchyld wrote:im def entering this 1 (first time)....just gota coupla questions. am i allowed to take a splice of a sample(from the pack) & turn it into a synth? bin practicing ma sidechaining... most sounds wont seem like they come from the pack, but 100% guaranteed they are. Is this cool?? like i dont want people saying i didnt use just the pack & shiit!chea

Yhe I would do the same, stretch it out, modulate it, etc.

tavravlavish wrote:then how do you guys make your basses if your not picking out sine waves and throwing them in samplers?

Generally find some low frequency sound and use that, timestretched or whatever. Prefer the warmer sound to a pure sine wave and theres no worry about vinyl-cutting etc in this context.

stappard wrote:

nowaysj wrote:^ That is some genuine paranoid thinking. I'm with you on that. I've pulled single wave forms from the packs to make synths. Personally I thinnnnnnnnnk it's cheating, but whatever, you can do it.

Yeah, technically there's nothing wrong with it because its just an extension of cutting a sample and putting it in a sampler, but... then whats the point of using samples at all

...To show what you're capable of: it's not a question of whether or not it's "cheating," but rather about how imaginatively you can tweak that shit until it's unrecognizable from the sample of origin. Any of us can snip a clean little looping sine out almost any of these samples, but when you start creating new drum sounds from a snippet of white noise at the end of a dirty sample or a string section from a manipulated 10 millisecond snip of a fart sound - that's what it's all about. Imaginative re-appropriation.

Edit:

Speaking of which, I hate to say it Haack but I think I'm gonna step down from judge duty because I loaded up the samples, started playin' wif 'em, and next thing ya know a song started writing itself.

We don't vote on these things any more?

alphacat wrote:

stappard wrote:

nowaysj wrote:^ That is some genuine paranoid thinking. I'm with you on that. I've pulled single wave forms from the packs to make synths. Personally I thinnnnnnnnnk it's cheating, but whatever, you can do it.

Yeah, technically there's nothing wrong with it because its just an extension of cutting a sample and putting it in a sampler, but... then whats the point of using samples at all

...To show what you're capable of: it's not a question of whether or not it's "cheating," but rather about how imaginatively you can tweak that shit until it's unrecognizable from the sample of origin. Any of us can snip a clean little looping sine out almost any of these samples, but when you start creating new drum sounds from a snippet of white noise at the end of a dirty sample or a string section from a manipulated 10 millisecond snip of a fart sound - that's what it's all about. Imaginative re-appropriation.

I agree for sure. There is a certainly a point though where the sample gets short enough that it loses the character of its origin.

Edit:

Speaking of which, I hate to say it Haack but I think I'm gonna step down from judge duty because I loaded up the samples, started playin' wif 'em, and next thing ya know a song started writing itself.

I'm waiting to see if anybody uses the, er, recognisable sample

I wouldn't dare.

stappard wrote:

alphacat wrote:

stappard wrote:

nowaysj wrote:^ That is some genuine paranoid thinking. I'm with you on that. I've pulled single wave forms from the packs to make synths. Personally I thinnnnnnnnnk it's cheating, but whatever, you can do it.

Yeah, technically there's nothing wrong with it because its just an extension of cutting a sample and putting it in a sampler, but... then whats the point of using samples at all

...To show what you're capable of: it's not a question of whether or not it's "cheating," but rather about how imaginatively you can tweak that shit until it's unrecognizable from the sample of origin. Any of us can snip a clean little looping sine out almost any of these samples, but when you start creating new drum sounds from a snippet of white noise at the end of a dirty sample or a string section from a manipulated 10 millisecond snip of a fart sound - that's what it's all about. Imaginative re-appropriation.

I agree for sure. There is a certainly a point though where the sample gets short enough that it loses the character of its origin.

Edit:

Speaking of which, I hate to say it Haack but I think I'm gonna step down from judge duty because I loaded up the samples, started playin' wif 'em, and next thing ya know a song started writing itself.

I'm waiting to see if anybody uses the, er, recognisable sample

i aint entered a track since number 16 but, if i enter this one im going to rape that sample

alphacat wrote:

stappard wrote:

nowaysj wrote:^ That is some genuine paranoid thinking. I'm with you on that. I've pulled single wave forms from the packs to make synths. Personally I thinnnnnnnnnk it's cheating, but whatever, you can do it.

Yeah, technically there's nothing wrong with it because its just an extension of cutting a sample and putting it in a sampler, but... then whats the point of using samples at all

...To show what you're capable of: it's not a question of whether or not it's "cheating," but rather about how imaginatively you can tweak that shit until it's unrecognizable from the sample of origin. Any of us can snip a clean little looping sine out almost any of these samples, but when you start creating new drum sounds from a snippet of white noise at the end of a dirty sample or a string section from a manipulated 10 millisecond snip of a fart sound - that's what it's all about. Imaginative re-appropriation.

Edit:

Speaking of which, I hate to say it Haack but I think I'm gonna step down from judge duty because I loaded up the samples, started playin' wif 'em, and next thing ya know a song started writing itself.

^

Alright, thanks for update. I'm actually also wantin to enter, this sample pack is solid, stappard has great selection.

hardcase..ive never made a track from samples only b4, i got creative as fuk stretching,pitch shifting,eq'n, etc. but i nailed the perfect way to create a wobble subbass. i love ma plugins... im indebted for life for this thread...if i never tried it, i would have never sussed this shit out!! so ma entry is in.... can't wait to hear the comments!!chea

oh man Im not sure I know enough to make a song from samples only but ill try to throwdown!

Friday night in......time to get to grips with my own sample pack

I think I'm in . . . all my shit is on a truck somewhere to my new city... so its just me laptop and the floor im sleeping on . . . might as well getter done.