Vinyl VS CDJ's

[MrKoekje]

having a physical copy is great. no offense producers, but i hate buying c.d.s and have even less interest in buying the digital tune.

ditto
Aside from what I prefer to buy, It shouldn't matter that much, as long as you don't suck at beatmatching or whatever; I can't say which to prefer, since currently I can't afford to get a CDJ or a DJing-specific turntable, let alone two.

[esfandyar]

I have never bought an MP3 and haven't bought a CD for years and years.

I have a collection nearing 600 vinyls in total and I love listening to them (don't even mix as I only have one deck at the moment).

Therefore I am completely uninterested in digital media as long as vinyl is still around.

i like this guy. 18 posts and joined in 2006. a true lurker.

i am such a vinyl head myself i feel ya. its comforting to smell it, touch it, feel it.

[MUT3]

Definately wish i had the money to spend and get all the vinyl I want.

More tunes, quicker, for more money. Thats how i see it.

I buy all my mp3s, the selections lacking but im not gonna let that hurt me as a DJ.

50 tunes for $100 isnt a bad deal at all.

[dj 2e]

serato all the way

^^^this^^^ dont get me wrong i still buy tones of vinyl, but sometimes money is tight. also if people send stuff over or you get free downloads they are instantly playable. aswell if something only comes out on digital i can still play it but i have the means to play vinyl aswell if the track is exclusive to vinyl.....

[wooda916]

Paying $30 to have a dub cut is just hard to rationalize when a CD costs 12 cents.

quality controll

Hate to break it to everyone but you don't get any cool points for cutting dubs in 2010. If you're putting out vinyl and are getting a test press then good on you... outside that if you're on a label and your labelmates/artists you're friends with whose sound matches your style or you simply want to support, CDJ's are a godsend.

At WMC last week, even with the heavy hitters, CDJ's outnumbered dubplates by about 20 to 1. It's simply more efficient and allows for much faster turn around.

But that's beside the point... that's now what the original poster was asking. They were asking why midrange has more CDJ useage... the answer is because midrange is rather new and still establishing itself and in comparison, has far less vinyl releases currently

A high turn around of tunes should not be a high priority! I hate mixing CD's, its far too easy, feels horrible and plasticy and takes away the enjoyment for me. I cant afford to be cutting endless dubplates, but that is a good thing, it means that if i am prepared to pay to cut something, that tune must be seriously good and warrant it.

This is a problem with the 'midrange' stuff your talking about. People can just come along and drop 20 brand spanking new 'dubs' that they just got every single time they play out, that doesnt mean they are playing good tunes! People seem to have this thing where they have to drop fresh tunes all the time, no matter if they are actually decent cause it costs 10p to burn a CD.

Like i said, cutting stuff to dubs is a way of gaining quality controll. You dont need 20 fresh tunes every week, 2 or 3 is fine for a decent turn around. Im sick of this throw away, disposable music perpetuated by the use of CD's.

EDIT: the same applies to digital vs Vinyl releases.

[EBR]

[qoute]Are you serious dude? Dubplates are more exciting?

So my label sorted me with KOAN Sound- New Beginning. That tune will be more exciting on a dubplate than it would be on a CDJ or Serato? Dude you've got issues if you think the medium determines anything.

Considering how quickly the sound degrades and the limited number of really really quality cutting houses still around, it's a wash on sound quality of dubplates vs cdjs.

I've DJ'd 15 years, more parties than I can count, and like I said if you think you're cooler because you dropped the cash to cut a dub then you are a whack dj. You can't buy your way to being a good DJ and anyone who thinks you're cooler because your dub plate has 2 holes in it versus a dj whose vinyl has 1 hole in it doesn't know much about djing

Even when it comes to big name DJ's, the only ones who are really cutting dubs in heavy heavy quantity are ones who work or have a close mate who works with access to a cut. It's 2010...the whole mysticism and elitism of dub plates has long since passed.

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It ain't about elitism or popularity. I am not popular. No one knows who I am. No one knows where I live. I am anonymous. I cut dub plates and I buy all vinyl because I still make mixes that I want to listen to. My mixes have got to be good because i don't have time to listen to crap music, like i don't have time to eat a sh*t meal. A DJ is like a cook. You want to make a good quality meal, you have to use quality ingredients. For me, I've never ever made an Mp3 mix that even comes close to the vinyl mixes. So you choose. I have.

We all know jumping on the new technology is the popular and cool thing to do. Cutting dubs and buying wax is def NOT the cool thing to do. I could give a shit if i ever play in a club again but i'll continue to cut dubplates and buy wax because thats how i get the best sounds out of my mixes.

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.

[deadly_habit]

[qoute]Are you serious dude? Dubplates are more exciting?

So my label sorted me with KOAN Sound- New Beginning. That tune will be more exciting on a dubplate than it would be on a CDJ or Serato? Dude you've got issues if you think the medium determines anything.

Considering how quickly the sound degrades and the limited number of really really quality cutting houses still around, it's a wash on sound quality of dubplates vs cdjs.

I've DJ'd 15 years, more parties than I can count, and like I said if you think you're cooler because you dropped the cash to cut a dub then you are a whack dj. You can't buy your way to being a good DJ and anyone who thinks you're cooler because your dub plate has 2 holes in it versus a dj whose vinyl has 1 hole in it doesn't know much about djing

Even when it comes to big name DJ's, the only ones who are really cutting dubs in heavy heavy quantity are ones who work or have a close mate who works with access to a cut. It's 2010...the whole mysticism and elitism of dub plates has long since passed.

It ain't about elitism or popularity. I am not popular. No one knows who I am. No one knows where I live. I am anonymous. I cut dub plates and I buy all vinyl because I still make mixes that I want to listen to. My mixes have got to be good because i don't have time to listen to crap music, like i don't have time to eat a sh*t meal. A DJ is like a cook. You want to make a good quality meal, you have to use quality ingredients. For me, I've never ever made an Mp3 mix that even comes close to the vinyl mixes. So you choose. I have.

We all know jumping on the new technology is the popular and cool thing to do. Cutting dubs and buying wax is def NOT the cool thing to do. I could give a shit if i ever play in a club again but i'll continue to cut dubplates and buy wax because thats how i get the best sounds out of my mixes.

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.[/quote]
handbags at dawn

[brasco]

but imagine if cd's and vinyl cost the same to buy... i think most would prefer to buy the vinyl.

i mix both cd and vinyl, if i could afford to cut everything, cd decks would already be on ebay

[Wolverine]

im a serato user, but recently ive been using cds as its convenient when doing gigs etc.

ive found out most venues have dodgy decks, or you need to bring your own carts, ive even been to one venue where you have to take your own slipmats!!!

personally i don't care about the cdj vs vinyl bollocks, if your playing tunes and the crowds dancing, raving and that then why should people be fussy

[kingthing]

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.

Thats one of the silliest statements I've ever heard on this increasingly ridiculous forum. What, prè tell oh wise one, is the difference exactly??

And as for Serato 'making things easy' - its exactly the same as mixing vinyl. There is a beat matching thingymajiggy on the computer screen, which you can choose to use if you want, but the only thing that 'makes things easy' is not having to take the vinyl off the deck after each tune.

Hey, I have nothing against vinyl or vinyl heads (well, some), but if i can make my £20 go about 40 tunes further than I could with buying wax, then quite frankly I dont give a shit. Sounds the same, does the same = is the same. I can buy a tune/get sent a promo and whack it STRAIGHT in a mix. As in, instant gratification - thats what this generation is all about I hear you cry, negative negative blah blah, but if it is the 'feel' of wax and then the anticipation of it coming through the door that really gets you hard, then i'd suggest you need to concentrate more on the actual music - you know, the noises and stuff that come off those things that you've (probably) got vacuum packed and mounted on your bathroom wall, with a candle lit vigil underneath.

Anyway, the point is - each to their own. Just dont go chatting like you're a better DJ just because you spin wax

[pkay]

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.

lol dude Did you just challenge me to a DJ battle on a dubstep forum? Get a grip dude. Consider the genre you're pushing.

Djing isn't about sword fighting with your cocks against other DJ's, it's about putting people in the club and moving asses.

[Wolverine]

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.

lol dude Did you just challenge me to a DJ battle on a dubstep forum? Get a grip dude. Consider the genre you're pushing.

Djing isn't about sword fighting with your cocks against other DJ's, it's about putting people in the club and moving asses.

lol battling dubsteppers

the only battling i do is to try get close to decks as poss in raves, not dj battling lol

[pkay]

im a serato user, but recently ive been using cds as its convenient when doing gigs etc.

ive found out most venues have dodgy decks, or you need to bring your own carts, ive even been to one venue where you have to take your own slipmats!!!

personally i don't care about the cdj vs vinyl bollocks, if your playing tunes and the crowds dancing, raving and that then why should people be fussy

Exactly man. Most DJ's who actually leave the house on a regular basis tend to be able to find a reason to use CD's/Serato.

There's no massive skill difference to be honest. It's not like the software or cds mix it for you. You still have to comprehend how to piece a legit set together, how to beatmatch, how to bring a track in, how to eq properly, and even then CD's and serato have their individual quarks that make it a bit unpredictable much like vinyl and turntables.

CDJ's have been out a decade now. I've yet to meet a DJ worth their weight who's completely shit on CD's/Serato. They may prefer vinyl, but most legit dj's can see the appeal and recognize the medium doesn't make the dj.

I switched to Scratch Live in 2003 I believe.... I still buy vinyl for my own personal collection and love my vinyl collection....

[pkay]

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.

lol dude Did you just challenge me to a DJ battle on a dubstep forum? Get a grip dude. Consider the genre you're pushing.

Djing isn't about sword fighting with your cocks against other DJ's, it's about putting people in the club and moving asses.

lol battling dubsteppers

the only battling i do is to try get close to decks as poss in raves, not dj battling lol

IM GONNA SCRATCH OVER DUBSTEP LOLOLOLOL

[Wolverine]

im a serato user, but recently ive been using cds as its convenient when doing gigs etc.

ive found out most venues have dodgy decks, or you need to bring your own carts, ive even been to one venue where you have to take your own slipmats!!!

personally i don't care about the cdj vs vinyl bollocks, if your playing tunes and the crowds dancing, raving and that then why should people be fussy

Exactly man. Most DJ's who actually leave the house on a regular basis tend to be able to find a reason to use CD's/Serato.

There's no massive skill difference to be honest. It's not like the software or cds mix it for you. You still have to comprehend how to piece a legit set together, how to beatmatch, how to bring a track in, how to eq properly, and even then CD's and serato have their individual quarks that make it a bit unpredictable much like vinyl and turntables.

CDJ's have been out a decade now. I've yet to meet a DJ worth their weight who's completely shit on CD's/Serato. They may prefer vinyl, but most legit dj's can see the appeal and recognize the medium doesn't make the dj.

I switched to Scratch Live in 2003 I believe.... I still buy vinyl for my own personal collection and love my vinyl collection....

serato is without a doubt the best investment of my life (along with decks etc.)

the option of buying mp3s and using them on turntables is amazing.

like you say i still buy vinyl especially when releases don't hit the digital world.

[EBR]

Why don't you bring your Cds and battle me. We'll find out real fast what the diffidence between CDJs and Vinyl is.

lol dude Did you just challenge me to a DJ battle on a dubstep forum? Get a grip dude. Consider the genre you're pushing.

Djing isn't about sword fighting with your cocks against other DJ's, it's about putting people in the club and moving asses.

I hear yah *laff

Yeh, I did just challenge you to a battle, just like they used to do in the old days and just like they still do it today. It aint always about scratching and hip hop. You got two people says they got the better sh*t, so having a battle @ the club is a good way to let the crowd decide who's more hype. If you ain't got the skills or guts to battle me on stage in front of everyone, you arent at that level yet.

We are talking about something that people do all the time. Peeps been having battles for thousands of years.

You want to battle me ? I will destroy you. You have NO chance.

edit : not to take over the tthread here back to business, right ?

For the record I have to boost the gains and the EQ to twice that of the vinyl when i record. Take the data and run with it. Peace out !

[Akira]

Doesnt Vinyl sound better tho? ive read that with CDJ's the lo end sounds dont sound as full and the highs sound too high and tbh i agree, and also is it not better for the audience to see the DJ actually doing something physically that the crowd can interact with, rather than just pushing buttons on a square box

[pkay]

Yeh, I did just challenge you to a battle, just like they used to do in the old days and just like they still do it today.

Yeah it's called turntablism.... you wanna bump your dick against some other dudes for tunrtablism superiority have at it

http://www.dmcdjchamps.com

I'm a dubstep dj, not a turntablist

[pkay]

Doesnt Vinyl sound better tho? ive read that with CDJ's the lo end sounds dont sound as full and the highs sound too high and tbh i agree, and also is it not better for the audience to see the DJ actually doing something physically that the crowd can interact with, rather than just pushing buttons on a square box

there's a fullness you don't get with digital tunes when you have a properly mastered vinyl release.

I don't think anyone's debating that. The original question, why do lots of midrange genre djs use CDJ's over vinyl, the answer still is because their music isn't as widely available on vinyl currently... though it's availability is increasing on a regular basis

as far as crowd interactions and phsyically doing something, you do just as much on serato as it's still a record being played.... and if you've seen a CDJ most of them have platters that are fairly relative to a tunrtable

if you're still mesmerized by a technic 1200 you may want to drop the dj worship

[pkay]

For the record I have to boost the gains and the EQ to twice that of the vinyl when i record. Take the data and run with it. Peace out !

sounds like you need to learn how to record