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Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:40 pm
by wirez
My sort of point was that the 'noobs' that everybody is hating on are actually potential customers.... If they're all coming here, naturally DSF is a killer selling spot, if it's split between two places it gets slightly harder to target your audience... Although it would be pretty awesome if 'filth' and 'Dubstep' were split!

But as the Ryan dude said that there isn't likely to be a forum, I suppose it makes this topic irrelevant!

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:01 pm
by Assassin
What a stupid idea!

Having a site like that as what is essentially a blog. Without a forum it would be useless.

I hope it does get rid of the filthfags, then I can dream of an underground scene.

Though I can only see future garage and brostep being the survivors.

Essentially brostep is for posers that have vaguely heard of dubstep, the deeper side is the real face of it all. People who like the deep stuff have more going on between their ears.

So Ryan if you could attract all those posers by making it look "urban" and "ghetto", then all the rich kids that think they are black have somewhere to go. Just add a few pictures of council high rises, police tape and graffiti.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:06 pm
by FSTZ
^^^thats too funny

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:13 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
Assassin wrote: So Ryan if you could attract all those posers by making it look "urban" and "ghetto", then all the rich kids that think they are black have somewhere to go. Just add a few pictures of council high rises, police tape and graffiti.
:lol:

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:18 pm
by JFK
Assassin wrote: So Ryan if you could attract all those posers by making it look "urban" and "ghetto", then all the rich kids that think they are black have somewhere to go. Just add a few pictures of council high rises, police tape and graffiti.
:lol: God I hate those pricks. The real shame is that they have no comprehension of how gay they look/sound. :lol:

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:44 pm
by serox
upstateface wrote:
Over7hink wrote:I honestly think Mt. Eden and their fabricated fan base will have a home there. think about it...the amount of hate they get on here, if they release albums they definitely won't be trying to promote it through DSF.

I think we're witnessing the online furtherance of what I consider the inevitable split in dubstep.
We need the split soon. Filth shouldn't be allowed to be called dubstep and it should have it's own genre.
:D

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:32 pm
by ryan_p
Assassin: the site won't be pointless without a forum, we have a number of ideas we are going to introduce, it would be a wasted domain if all we had was a blog.

The reason we purchased the domain was to promote dubstep, not filth. If the site does cause a split, it will only be because the people looking for filth will not be able to find it.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:41 am
by Assassin
ryan_p wrote:Assassin: the site won't be pointless without a forum, we have a number of ideas we are going to introduce, it would be a wasted domain if all we had was a blog.

The reason we purchased the domain was to promote dubstep, not filth. If the site does cause a split, it will only be because the people looking for filth will not be able to find it.
Don't forget the high risers.

Council estate badmen are the future. Especially when they are called Tarquin or Moonriver and shit.

Am I really that much of a tnuc? Judging by my twelve hour shift in a workplace rammed full of wannabe daddys cash gangstars(sic) that have jeans so low I can see the silver spoon sticking out of their arse, then yes I am a tnuc.

Oh yeah and if you're rich don't say wagwan and definitely do not call your mate "seb" a "g" or A "******". Especially when the tnuc is White, Ginger and has the most ridiculous eton wanker accent I've ever heard.

And while I'm on the subject don't but into my conversation while I'm on a break, when me and a friend are discussing this exact genre to proclaim these exact words: "rusko is sick, have you got a spare cigarette please."

no I don't have cunting spare cigarette, what the fuck is a spare cigarette anyway? Buy your own bastard cigarettes you tight, Audi driving, public school attending tnuc.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:34 am
by Basic A
If you pople want to split, do it.

Aggrostep (Aggrotech, industrial music that used alot of bitcrushing and heavy bass, step to refer to the synco nature/tempo fo the drums)

Dubstep (Dub, to refer to the relaxed and almost dub like nature of the music as well as a general mindset conveyed. Step to refer to the general syncopated nature/tempo of the music.)

I love both. Sincerely.

But I think a split, right there, as that, would promote alot of development, end alot of squaller, ect. on both sides.

Im none to have power to pick the name. But something along these lines needs to show up, and I agree. There isnt much 'dub' influence in the aggressive stuff. and yeah. split, because all either side is clingy to to hold the other nearby is the 140ish tempo and the drum patterns. Let it go. Pick a new name. Dont have to pick sides, but, enough arguing about how it needs ot be done (both sides of that do) and just f*cking do it.

Those of us who dont care either way, we ummm... dont care either way.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:03 am
by grooki
The whole reason that there is this debate/argument going on is because there is too much of an obsession with genres. Think about it, if you forget the need to label the music. people just go where they want to go, everyone is happy.

I think basically it's a bum fight over the word "dubstep". Forget about Dubstep.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:25 am
by JFK
Assassin wrote:
ryan_p wrote:Assassin: the site won't be pointless without a forum, we have a number of ideas we are going to introduce, it would be a wasted domain if all we had was a blog.

The reason we purchased the domain was to promote dubstep, not filth. If the site does cause a split, it will only be because the people looking for filth will not be able to find it.
Don't forget the high risers.

Council estate badmen are the future. Especially when they are called Tarquin or Moonriver and shit.

Am I really that much of a tnuc? Judging by my twelve hour shift in a workplace rammed full of wannabe daddys cash gangstars(sic) that have jeans so low I can see the silver spoon sticking out of their arse, then yes I am a tnuc.

Oh yeah and if you're rich don't say wagwan and definitely do not call your mate "seb" a "g" or A "******". Especially when the tnuc is White, Ginger and has the most ridiculous eton wanker accent I've ever heard.

And while I'm on the subject don't but into my conversation while I'm on a break, when me and a friend are discussing this exact genre to proclaim these exact words: "rusko is sick, have you got a spare cigarette please."

no I don't have cunting spare cigarette, what the fuck is a spare cigarette anyway? Buy your own bastard cigarettes you tight, Audi driving, public school attending tnuc.
This is my favourite post of all time!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Made me lol so hard I spat nescafe all over my desk.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:33 am
by JFK
grooki wrote:The whole reason that there is this debate/argument going on is because there is too much of an obsession with genres. Think about it, if you forget the need to label the music. people just go where they want to go, everyone is happy.

I think basically it's a bum fight over the word "dubstep". Forget about Dubstep.
Wise words man. The debate about what is and isnt "dubstep" is getting a bit old now. People should just make the music they want to make and leave it at that....

In the beginning it was "One sound, one scene" because everyone was worried about sub genres splitting the scene down the middle and causing it to fall apart from the inside, a la DnB. But if we just didnt acknowledge the sub genres existence in the first place then how could there be a problem?

Just make tunes. Dont worry about where they "fit", just do it.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:49 am
by wirez
I think the continuing argument over sub genres is keeping the buzz of the genre high to be honest :twisted:

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:52 am
by Gombles
grooki wrote:The whole reason that there is this debate/argument going on is because there is too much of an obsession with genres. Think about it, if you forget the need to label the music. people just go where they want to go, everyone is happy.

I think basically it's a bum fight over the word "dubstep". Forget about Dubstep.
:arrow: :z:

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:22 pm
by Project_B
I just hate it when people ask me what music im into and I have to say "dubstep".

I guess I could say "errr its kinda big mix of dubtechno stabs and chords, with alot of elements of dub, half time drums but with a more techno feel" but that would create more questions than it answers.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:42 pm
by wirez
Project_B wrote:I just hate it when people ask me what music im into and I have to say "dubstep".
I've actually said that exactly statement on a number of occasions! I say Garage :) Stick with the old school lol

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:05 am
by HighBot
Basic A wrote:If you pople want to split, do it.

Aggrostep (Aggrotech, industrial music that used alot of bitcrushing and heavy bass, step to refer to the synco nature/tempo fo the drums)

Dubstep (Dub, to refer to the relaxed and almost dub like nature of the music as well as a general mindset conveyed. Step to refer to the general syncopated nature/tempo of the music.)

I love both. Sincerely.

But I think a split, right there, as that, would promote alot of development, end alot of squaller, ect. on both sides.

Im none to have power to pick the name. But something along these lines needs to show up, and I agree. There isnt much 'dub' influence in the aggressive stuff. and yeah. split, because all either side is clingy to to hold the other nearby is the 140ish tempo and the drum patterns. Let it go. Pick a new name. Dont have to pick sides, but, enough arguing about how it needs ot be done (both sides of that do) and just f*cking do it.

Those of us who dont care either way, we ummm... dont care either way.
+1 to that Basic A.

All the rest of you in this thread are sounding like high brow snobs to be honest...
If you don't like a particular sound, listen to something else, no need to branch off into stereotyping, and this attitude of "what I like rocks, what you like is shit" mentality.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:19 am
by Basic A
wirez wrote:
Project_B wrote:I just hate it when people ask me what music im into and I have to say "dubstep".
I've actually said that exactly statement on a number of occasions! I say Garage :) Stick with the old school lol
Guys shouldnt have to. You should be saying dubstep, becuase it is, its dubby chill step... And honestly, I shouldnt have to wonder when asking someone to feedback 'Yo what style you like, like, deep or aggro? ... Or if someone comes in and I ask 'Mind if I listen to dubstep?' and they go, no, no go right ahead, and then I put on soemthing that conflicts with what they vibe to.

Its a big difference, and its leaving both sides cofused, bickering, and like someone said above, is keeping alot of weighty focus on the genre from outside.

I.M.O. if you split, the development would be unf*cking believable on both sides, because one wouldnt be weeding through such vague terms for music... Think about it, remember when garage/dubstep/grime got lumped into a sales spot online? That was HAAARD.... with division, you could see the light through the trees. Labels would be able to fous on one side of the other without the conflict of having to tell very talented, though different styled artists no, and everyone would see more concise categorizing, thus a general decrease in clutter with an increase of ease of visibility... next thing you know... the unheard of talent that could be coming up on both sdes can be seen for what it is.

the impact on it would be pretty awesome really. New sounds would start emerging, labels and libraries would get concise and therefore less jumbled and therefore focus on generally more diverse and quality material...

Hell top it all off, it'd end alot of bickering. It wont fractionalize a scene, but give us all breathing room. Youll still have nights which play both, but it wont be shocker when one night specializes in sub and another in aggro... ect.

IDK, I think you all need to quit fighting, fuckin do it, and get on bettering each craft through it.

But cue next eprson to call this heresy :roll:

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:47 am
by abZ
grooki wrote:The whole reason that there is this debate/argument going on is because there is too much of an obsession with genres. Think about it, if you forget the need to label the music. people just go where they want to go, everyone is happy.

I think basically it's a bum fight over the word "dubstep". Forget about Dubstep.
x2000

I have the solution to all of this. Instead of shopping for new genre and subgenre names how about we just call is bass music and call it a day. Maybe it would even encourage people to color outside the lines more. This argument is getting very boring.

Re: How do you think dubstep.com will affect DSF and promotion?

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:03 am
by JFK
abZ wrote:Instead of shopping for new genre and subgenre names how about we just call is bass music and call it a day. Maybe it would even encourage people to color outside the lines more. This argument is getting very boring.
Agree 100,000,000%