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Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:35 pm
by phrex
haha

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:17 am
by Sharmaji
legend4ry wrote:Ive been djin' it, making it and exposing it since 06 and I am still not bored of it.
no doubt

that we have to specify "deep and dark" in dubstep is.... :(

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:27 am
by legend4ry
Sharmaji wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Ive been djin' it, making it and exposing it since 06 and I am still not bored of it.
no doubt

that we have to specify "deep and dark" in dubstep is.... :(
Indeed, I am a purist, like most and believe its just one big genre but I don't wanna be associated with the hype stuff, not cause its not my scene its just people will come to a "deep an dark" night and expect it to be the other stuff and then you get 200 people confused/annoyed on the dance floor and visa versa., alas it was a matter of time.

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:47 am
by tripwire22
serox wrote:same.

I dont mind some wobbles, it all depends how its done!

We need more dark, gritty, sub bass driven heavy beats.
False flags original or remix both kill it

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:17 am
by tavravlavish
SesG wrote:gotta add Benga to the list, and Horsepower Productions, and El-B, and.... :D

get benga out of there!!! my opinion of course... :P

not too fond of el-b either, but horsepower is probably my favorite dubstep... ever.... fuck everything else :wink: ...


this song is absolutely king of the bass in my opinion... i cant imagine this in a club.. id be crying, or masturbating in a corner... behold...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJTP9COnDp8
classy...

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:19 am
by tavravlavish
not that im old enough to be in "da club"

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:27 am
by grooki
gravity wrote:that recent youngsta radio mix had loads of wicked stuff like this. oddly enough a lot of the stuff on that mix seems to come from ex-dnb producers (obviously left the scene because no one in dnb seems to be into deep stuff any more). actually i suppose its not that odd, given the kind of virusey tinge a lot of it had.
link? I'd like to have a listen. I have Seven and Youngsta mix from a while ago, it's excellent.

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:35 am
by grooki
suprised noone has mentioned Kryptic Minds?

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:06 am
by JFK
unitzdub wrote:
JFK wrote:Its nice to see the love returning in force for the more sub heavy stuff.

Midrange bass just gets irritating after a while. Anyone who can listen to anything by Unitz needs a medal.
wtf do you know about dark anyway? you obviously haven''t heard much of my stuff..

and btw sort your drum samples out mate.
:lol: Thanks for the feedback kiddo! :lol:

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:51 am
by serox
gravity wrote:that recent youngsta radio mix had loads of wicked stuff like this. oddly enough a lot of the stuff on that mix seems to come from ex-dnb producers (obviously left the scene because no one in dnb seems to be into deep stuff any more). actually i suppose its not that odd, given the kind of virusey tinge a lot of it had.
I try and check all Youngsta mixes because he plays the best music and his mixing is tight. Which mix are you talking about? I thought most the dark stuff was by the oldskool Dubstep producers and the only ex DnB producers I can think of are Kryptic Minds.

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:52 am
by serox
unitzdub wrote:
JFK wrote:Its nice to see the love returning in force for the more sub heavy stuff.

Midrange bass just gets irritating after a while. Anyone who can listen to anything by Unitz needs a medal.
wtf do you know about dark anyway? you obviously haven''t heard much of my stuff..

and btw sort your drum samples out mate.
big up the Epsom crew lol

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:54 am
by serox
tavravlavish wrote:

this song is absolutely king of the bass in my opinion... i cant imagine this in a club.. id be crying, or masturbating in a corner... behold...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJTP9COnDp8
classy...
bit like what I am making right now but mine has bigger bass imo :P

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4HWJP45T

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:54 am
by phrex
JFK wrote:
unitzdub wrote:
JFK wrote:Its nice to see the love returning in force for the more sub heavy stuff.

Midrange bass just gets irritating after a while. Anyone who can listen to anything by Unitz needs a medal.
wtf do you know about dark anyway? you obviously haven''t heard much of my stuff..

and btw sort your drum samples out mate.
:lol: Thanks for the feedback kiddo! :lol:
he's obviously after some 230s :o

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:08 am
by Brisance
serox wrote: bit like what I am making right now but mine has bigger bass imo :P

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4HWJP45T
That one is big, tried it on a mediocre system, rumbled all the place.

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:14 am
by phrex
serox wrote:
tavravlavish wrote:

this song is absolutely king of the bass in my opinion... i cant imagine this in a club.. id be crying, or masturbating in a corner... behold...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJTP9COnDp8
classy...
bit like what I am making right now but mine has bigger bass imo :P

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4HWJP45T
when you finish it, i expect a full report and a 230 on my desk! :o
:lol:

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:48 am
by SesG
:o Just listened to Kryptic Minds for the first time after suggestions from this thread, that stuff is amazing :twisted:

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:53 am
by JFK
SesG wrote::o Just listened to Kryptic Minds for the first time after suggestions from this thread, that stuff is amazing :twisted:
Isnt it just..... Pure quality man. Pure quality.

You heard any Breakage mate? If not I reckon you would like that too, LOADS of
quality sub :D

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:03 am
by serox
JFK wrote:
SesG wrote::o Just listened to Kryptic Minds for the first time after suggestions from this thread, that stuff is amazing :twisted:
Isnt it just..... Pure quality man. Pure quality.

You heard any Breakage mate? If not I reckon you would like that too, LOADS of
quality sub :D
I dont think Breakage falls into the dark area, hes a cheeser! only track I have heard and liked by him is Together.

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:14 am
by JFK
serox wrote:
JFK wrote:
SesG wrote::o Just listened to Kryptic Minds for the first time after suggestions from this thread, that stuff is amazing :twisted:
Isnt it just..... Pure quality man. Pure quality.

You heard any Breakage mate? If not I reckon you would like that too, LOADS of
quality sub :D
I dont think Breakage falls into the dark area, hes a cheeser! only track I have heard and liked by him is Together.
Yeah I kind of see what you are getting at mate. With the vocal tunes he has on his album it would be easy to classify him as anything but dark.....

But for me the addition of the (admittedly slightly cheesy) vocals gives such a stark contrast to the deep rolling sub bass and minimal drums that the bass and drums almost become the main focus of the tunes.

The obvious exception is "Vial" off of the album, which he coproduced with Burial. That is one hell of a dark tune.

Its all about what you classify as "dark" I suppose......

Re: Deep, dark dubstep

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:26 am
by serox
JFK wrote: Yeah I kind of see what you are getting at mate. With the vocal tunes he has on his album it would be easy to classify him as anything but dark.....

But for me the addition of the (admittedly slightly cheesy) vocals gives such a stark contrast to the deep rolling sub bass and minimal drums that the bass and drums almost become the main focus of the tunes.

The obvious exception is "Vial" off of the album, which he coproduced with Burial. That is one hell of a dark tune.

Its all about what you classify as "dark" I suppose......
Just had a quick listen to Veil. First off I can only hear Burial's flava in the track and altho it has atmosphere I would not call it dark, deep, but not dark.

It does come down to what people call dark your right. I am well into Doomcore and Darkcore so I have quite a bit of dark records. I hear the word dark thrown around quite a bit in Dubstep and I hardly agree. I think to myself, yes, it is dark compared to Happy Hardcore but thats about it. Dark and deep are often confused with mid range noise too, weird.

For those who want to know what Doomcore and Darkcore is, here you go! this is darkness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiu7tlu8 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUOVcNyKjOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TQWBMp- ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBOXAuOH ... re=related