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green plan
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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by green plan » Sat May 01, 2010 12:45 am

FSTZ wrote:yeah

I lived without sidechaining until last december...

but now my tracks have that oomph that I always felt they were missing
Really? You are one of the on to it forum members. Do you use it all the time? I always thought it was a sort of last resort can't quite everything in its own zones technique (or a creative one which I use heavily on pads/atmosphere/vocals etc). But I guess a bit of subtle side chaining on the sub/kick might make them both stand out a little. Will try it out.

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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by wabble » Sat May 01, 2010 4:08 am

sidechain sub bass /problem
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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by xparameterx » Sat May 01, 2010 5:18 am

Depone wrote:
freakah wrote:
FSTZ wrote:sidechaining is the answer
Gotta disagree with ya there. Sidechaing can be a fix, but i wouldnt jump to it unlesss it REALLY needed it. Try Hi passing your kick to around 80hz
^^^This

Sidechaining can be very useful, and it can also be used as a cool effect in order to achieve a desired sound...but in this situation it seems like it would mask the problem more than it would solve it. I would spend a bit of time getting to terms with the relationship between the EQ/Levels of your sub bass and kick, that way you would truly have the clarity and punch that I think you're after.

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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by abZ » Sat May 01, 2010 5:31 am

I go nuts with the sidechain tbh.

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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by grooki » Sat May 01, 2010 6:34 am

Some kicks keep their punch when you hipass, some just go all floppy... Depends what notes your sub is too, if it's really low and doesn't come up, you could hipass a bit lower on the kick. If the sub is very dynamic, side chain could be the answer.

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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by FSTZ » Sat May 01, 2010 6:40 am

xparameterx wrote:
Depone wrote:
freakah wrote:
FSTZ wrote:sidechaining is the answer
Gotta disagree with ya there. Sidechaing can be a fix, but i wouldnt jump to it unlesss it REALLY needed it. Try Hi passing your kick to around 80hz
^^^This

Sidechaining can be very useful, and it can also be used as a cool effect in order to achieve a desired sound...but in this situation it seems like it would mask the problem more than it would solve it. I would spend a bit of time getting to terms with the relationship between the EQ/Levels of your sub bass and kick, that way you would truly have the clarity and punch that I think you're after.
I agree with you

however..

I lo-cut and sidechain..

it yeilds nice results

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Re: Subbass destroying my kick

Post by jsills » Sun May 02, 2010 6:36 am

grooki wrote:Some kicks keep their punch when you hipass, some just go all floppy... Depends what notes your sub is too, if it's really low and doesn't come up, you could hipass a bit lower on the kick. If the sub is very dynamic, side chain could be the answer.
i like this homie.

i used to sidechain alot when i was fucking with it to learn the technique but now i do not use it, at all. but after FSTZ comment and this im sold. gotta start using it again.

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