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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:48 pm
by parson
beatmatching is as impressive a skill as driving a car

its all about the selection and programming imo

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:14 pm
by sek [espionage]
been really getting deep into serato lately..
for a long time I just sorta treated in like a virtual bag of records.

last few months though I've been messing with the cue points / loop features quite a bit.

fuck me, adds a whole new dynamic to mixing.. it's pure party biz.

Not sure if it's a bad thing or not.. but discovering some of serato's advanced features has really got be questioning buying vinyl at all anymore.

The program has really taken djing to another level.



Like parson said, beat matching is a cakewalk...

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:21 pm
by parson
i learned how to beatmatch in like an hour

if i get too intoxicated i'll have some shaky mixes for sure but i'll drive a lil shaky if i did that while too intoxicated

i do like mixing vinyl though. its tactile and fun. i got me a new macbook and wanna get torq runnin on it.

might do ableton in the meantime

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:26 pm
by Jubz
Parson wrote:beatmatching is as impressive a skill as driving a car

its all about the selection and programming imo
Innit.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:28 pm
by 999
an hour is pretty badly exaggerated and anyone can drive a car between the lines. beatmatching is like driving down a tunnel with an inch of space on either side of your ride.

bpm sync is disgusting though. i love vinyl but dont really care as long as theres manual beatmatching going on.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:29 pm
by digital
Parson wrote:i got me a new macbook and wanna get torq runnin on it.
Torq is good value for money. Runs well on macbook and macbookpro. It's well fun to just buss up a little mix without connecting to deckle as well. Heard good things about Numark Cue as well but not sure if their gonna release a mac version yet.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:31 pm
by parson
yeah my bro bought me macbook pro with core 2 duo 2ghz and gig of ram (late xmas/bday)

i'm superpoor though so there's no telling how soon i'll get anything decent running on it

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:00 am
by parson
999 wrote:an hour is pretty badly exaggerated and anyone can drive a car between the lines. beatmatching is like driving down a tunnel with an inch of space on either side of your ride.
prolly a lil more accurate i guess

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:11 am
by signus
I just love the feel of mixing with vinyl, there's somethin raw about it and I like to see the vinyl as well rather than just a program on a monitor. I have no problem with others mixing in that way though as a good friend of mine mixes usin his lap top and an mp3 deck/mixer thing.

As for beat matchin, I love doin it so much and I still go a bit sketchy on a bad day but I get a thrill out of being able to do somethin that a lot of other people don't know the 1st thing about doin. Quite a lot of peeps I know have tried mixin quite a few times and just can't coz they don't have the mind for it (either that or they're doin it to make me feel better :lol: )

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:17 am
by parson
they just need somebody to explain it in a way they can get

z-trip has a great dj how-to in the extras for the movie Scratch

its not rocket science

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:35 am
by sek [espionage]
agreed about mixing on turntables though..

can't through down hard pushing hot keys on your laptop or those little pitch +/- buttons on CD players.

serato is great fun, it's the feel of vinyl on 1200's and then some.





looooooove the serato.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:35 am
by autonomic
mmmm... torq looks like loads of fun. need a lot more digital releases to make it worthwhile for me though.

i found out after seeing geeneus play that he was using serato and it's not like i felt gypped...
drbluebeat wrote:Rather a good selector with a pen drive full of good than a wace one with crap vinyl.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:56 am
by djshiva
prisoner wrote:
jim wrote:Shouldn't be using traktor anyway, it's gash! Ableton all the way.
lol @ dissing traktor and then bigging up ableton in the same sentance.

they can both be used just as lazily or unimaginatively.

no software is inherently bad or good. it's just how well someone uses it.
ding ding ding!!!

it's all about the creativity of the dj themselves. i have been djing on decks for 12 years, and i have also been using ableton lately for dubstep. my djing experience on decks informs how i play with ableton. i don't wanna just sit back and let it be easy. i want to take advantage of the technology and make sets even MORE interesting because i have the tools to do so. and after 12 years, i don't have anything to prove to anyone as far as beatmatching goes. can do it, done it, and continue to do it.

i have also seen multiple ableton "live" sets, where people had set tunes up in the arrange section and then just tweak knobs on the controller. *yawn* boring. lame. and many other adjectives...

you either push for newer, fresher ways to present the music you dig. or you don't. and the tools you use are just that. tools.

p.s. frankly, there are plenty of big name djs of all genres who i would probably rather hear use ableton or traktor because their beatmatching sucks ass.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:52 am
by dj $hy
We use serato with Dubs & records but its seems a lot of people seem to think you can sync this.....Trust me thats not the case!

I'm moving FWD, cant stop the digital age imho, embrace it! Does not mean I dont buy records or get duns cut but I get about 5-10 tracks a week n I'll play 3-4 so how else do I do it unless I but a record presser...

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:09 am
by flipw
Vinyl I love you forever

music sounds better with you

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:29 am
by spherix
LUCKY_STRIKE wrote:im all 4 it, it means dj's can find different ways to b creative with their sets!

i dnt see how people can say u r only a dj if u use vinyl! y??

in this day n age wen u haveprograms like ableton y noy b creative with it, at least u kno each set could b soooo different cos there is so many tools to play with!
i agree

dont label yourself a DJ label yourself an "act" or something

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:36 am
by n-type
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:47 am
by spherix
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:56 pm
by ufo over easy
Parson wrote:beatmatching is as impressive a skill as driving a car
tell that to all the ridiculous clang-tastic DJs that still manage to get gigs week in week out :)

On a different note I never learnt to drive :(

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:58 pm
by blip
But you can learn to pen-drive. :)