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Re: "Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'"

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:51 pm
by x-kaylie
incnic wrote:i love how everyone instantly applies this to themselves

'xzomg im soooo special etc'

:lol:

i disagree with the statement
:w:

rofl

Re: "Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'"

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:15 pm
by sofa_king
HRKRT wrote:this is something i always think about when tripping.
i imagine there are some brain similarities between schizophrenia and taking acid too.

i always thought it was more bipolar disorder that was (perhaps wrongly) associated with creativity/genius. ever since A Beautiful Mind people have been romanticizing mental disorders. seems a bit misguided.

Re: "Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'"

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:52 pm
by incnic
im so creataive today guuys
just read a paper upside down in the park and then rode home with a purple hat on sideways
:w:

Re: "Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'"

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:26 pm
by BLAHBLAHJAH
incnic wrote:im so creataive today guuys
just read a paper upside down in the park and then rode home with a purple hat on sideways
:w:

Slightly less insane than generating your own world courtesy of the internet

sofa king -
There's a whole category of chemicals labelled as 'psychomimetics'

Some of them function on principals of imitating known nuerotransmitters i.e. LSD, MDMA, but some such as ketamine and cousin PCP's action are unknown regarding which nuerotransmitters they work on. I think the fundamental difference is how a 'normal' mind functions when chemically put into this mimicry state compared to how a struggling schizophrenic mind generally copes. The world focuses only on the extremely negative cases of such illnesses, which may be likened to the functioning of 'a bad trip' to someone in unknown territory. It sells, and people are always more intruiged by threats than benefits. However, plenty of people enjoy the benefits of psychomimetic influence, much as I'm sure some loosely labelled schizophrenic characters can maintain life in society

Anyway, something as simple as the repeating OCD action of having to tag a name everywhere you go can be classed as a mental disorder. I'm special because I don't do that. On the contrary, I'm sure my folder of hundreds of drawings could be a psychologist's wet dream. Essentially, 'fear' regarding this concept stems down a metaphor of an astronaut's safety harness breaking and drifting off into space

I'd say the real 'mentally challenged' people are those incapable of any form of creativity, going through life based on temporary adsorption

Besides... It should be common knowledge that " No laboratory test for schizophrenia currently exists" - it's a loosely generated psychological syndrome. Mock instead people that claim to depressed, or better still, cheer the miserable sods up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotomimetic

Re: "Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'"

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:49 pm
by HRKRT
sofa_king wrote:
HRKRT wrote:this is something i always think about when tripping.
i imagine there are some brain similarities between schizophrenia and taking acid too.

i always thought it was more bipolar disorder that was (perhaps wrongly) associated with creativity/genius. ever since A Beautiful Mind people have been romanticizing mental disorders. seems a bit misguided.
There was a really good documentary on 4od recently, following this rich guy who had bipolar who took 12 ukrainian women out to jamaica and tried to decide which one he would ask to marry.

but then he entered a manic episode and became convinced he was Allah, and would make huge elaborate speeches all the time. It's easy to see how it could be fuelling creativity. His doctor says at one point that hes smoking weed to get worse, because he loves the highs of the bipolar so much.

Anybody know of any other documentarys about this kind of stuff? find it really fascinating.