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i love gross beat!

whack a random noise through gross beat, and after about 5 minutes of work, you have a sick little effect
that you can use throughout your tune, just to spice it up nicely.

sound goodizer was introduced in FL 8 im pretty sure

so its relatively new

when i automate anything on gross beat, i just move what i want to automate, click the lil plugin icon at the top left, then click "last tweaked parameter" and then "create automation clip"

sooo much better then "edit events" which i used to use back in the day


makes life alot easier

'Last tweaked paremeter' FTW!

in ableton i can right click anything i want and choose show automation in new lane
and go

i'd like to know what the difference is though, whats this edit event and edit last parameter stuff in fl?
Is it like 2 different automation lanes for the same parameter?

edit events

essentially for those who done have midi controllers im guessing



automation clips

i dont have a midi controller so i draw in all my automation

when you edit last tweaked parameter if gives you the option to chose from edit events and create automation clip

Soundgoodizer = stereo imaging, saturation, compression and limiting.

If you have Maximus there are the A,B,C,D presets from soundgoodizer that basically uses maximus engine...

I would be extremely carefull using this plugin... The best is to use it individualy if you want to fatten some individual bits like kicks, bass... but If you use it as a "mastering" plugin, you will probably have everything ultra loud, but without punch... and the worst thing that can happen is that you forget and get used to that sound, someone asks you to release your tune but send it with clean master channel strip so it can be mastered, then you remove the "goodizer" and find out that tune sounds crap! Be carefull...

Wrigzilla wrote:I actually thought soundgoodizer was a joke effect, until I searched it on google. I stand corrected.

It is a joke plugin. Il put it in for deh n00bz.

egoless wrote:Soundgoodizer = stereo imaging, saturation, compression and limiting.

If you have Maximus there are the A,B,C,D presets from soundgoodizer that basically uses maximus engine...

I would be extremely carefull using this plugin... The best is to use it individualy if you want to fatten some individual bits like kicks, bass... but If you use it as a "mastering" plugin, you will probably have everything ultra loud, but without punch... and the worst thing that can happen is that you forget and get used to that sound, someone asks you to release your tune but send it with clean master channel strip so it can be mastered, then you remove the "goodizer" and find out that tune sounds crap! Be carefull...

yeah i only use it individually

never put it on my master

nowaysj wrote:

Wrigzilla wrote:I actually thought soundgoodizer was a joke effect, until I searched it on google. I stand corrected.

It is a joke plugin. Il put it in for deh n00bz.

Yeah, I've found it tends to make bad music sound better, and good music sound worse. So if you're one of those clueless 12 year olds who grabbed himself a cracked copy of FL to make phat beatz with, have fun with SoundGoodizer. Otherwise...

No hate, I guess i just called you a n00b by implication, my bad. I'm slippin.

you say tomato, i say potato

nowaysj wrote:

Wrigzilla wrote:I actually thought soundgoodizer was a joke effect, until I searched it on google. I stand corrected.

It is a joke plugin. Il put it in for deh n00bz.

there does have to be some element of image line taking the piss with this plug in. even just looking at the interface. i used it once for about 10 seconds and never opened it again.

Recessive Trait wrote:

nowaysj wrote:

Wrigzilla wrote:I actually thought soundgoodizer was a joke effect, until I searched it on google. I stand corrected.

It is a joke plugin. Il put it in for deh n00bz.

there does have to be some element of image line taking the piss with this plug in. even just looking at the interface. i used it once for about 10 seconds and never opened it again.

as powerful as fruity loops is, i think image line know they're kind of catering to a crowd of sloppy producers and is throwing them a bunch of shortcuts so they can get their ideas out quicker than their technical ability allows them

to be honest i don't know if this is a good or a bad thing

It's one of the reasons you can get good results quickly out of fruity, but this disposition towards the n00bs is not good for the n00bs or for the software. Confronting gain staging, dynamic range, and all of the other black arts of production can be daunting up front, but these issues must be mastered to progress as a producer. Having a software constantly helping you out with these things in the background can really slow your development.

soundgoodizer is a terrible maximizer, if id use it id use it for an effect.
i dont hope you users use it on the master.

nowaysj wrote:It's one of the reasons you can get good results quickly out of fruity, but this disposition towards the n00bs is not good for the n00bs or for the software. Confronting gain staging, dynamic range, and all of the other black arts of production can be daunting up front, but these issues must be mastered to progress as a producer. Having a software constantly helping you out with these things in the background can really slow your development.

and yet tracks like township funk still get signed to warp
the production and composition of these hastily put together tracks annoy me, but they still seem to sell well and do well on the dance floor. Hell, even a fair few of Joker's earlier cuts, when people where already harping on about the guy, sound really really messy to me

but maybe there's something to be said about a kind of rushed/short-cut ethic to mixing and mastering your tracks. people still seem to dig them and usually they get away being dropped live, so i dunno. Reminds me of indie guitarists doing everything into horribly distorted tape recorders, I quite like those guys

edit: i also quite like joker just before anyone thinks i'm having a go

Oh boy.