yeah i meant this is obviously a fucked up video and tbh it scared me a bit
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:54 pm
by BLAHBLAHJAH
Pistonsbeneath wrote:yeah i meant this is obviously a fucked up video and tbh it scared me a bit
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
I think she was always a reptillian... Just turned into a human at the start
Much prefer videos like this to the typical RnB shite of syphilis mugs tryna swagger all sexily
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:57 pm
by hackman
Pistonsbeneath wrote:yeah i meant this is obviously a fucked up video and tbh it scared me a bit
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
haha i didn't even notice the scales before
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:16 pm
by particle-jim
damn... fair amount of dodgy symbolism there, no doubt i missed a load of it as well
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:20 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
I think you're probably right on it being a Jodorowsky homage. Shame it's a shit song and video.
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:59 pm
by WhosZena
Please! Who cares if she has a new video!?(okay silly question)But as soon as the music comes in it reminds how all her stuff sounds the same.
"shes so different" "she makes such a statement" --Oh piss off! I hate the fact that whenever an artist makes a 'statement' it takes 10x as long to forget they ever existed. They get indented into the pop world as some kind of God. It must be all the symbols
Also I want to say a personal thanks to her many producers and make-up artists and fashon designers and directors and managers and hairdressers and doctors and cooks and drivers and record companies and assistants and shit sweepers and FUCKING FANS!
Where would we all be without you guys?
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:45 pm
by knell
WhosZena? wrote:Please! Who cares if she has a new video!?(okay silly question)But as soon as the music comes in it reminds how all her stuff sounds the same.
"shes so different" "she makes such a statement" --Oh piss off! I hate the fact that whenever an artist makes a 'statement' it takes 10x as long to forget they ever existed. They get indented into the pop world as some kind of God. It must be all the symbols
Also I want to say a personal thanks to her many producers and make-up artists and fashon designers and directors and managers and hairdressers and doctors and cooks and drivers and record companies and assistants and shit sweepers and FUCKING FANS!
Where would we all be without you guys?
but, but but!!!!! she has deep, spiritual lyrics such as wanting to ride on my disco stick!!!!
my DISCO...STICK... are you blind to the truth? do you not see the profound meaning behind that!>!>!>!?
haha, she's like electronic pop marilyn manson, it's all about shock value and weirdness combined with waste lyrics
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:48 pm
by Pistonsbeneath
the very thing i find disturbing is the bubblegum pop songs being listened to by little girls and the video being basically satanic...more so than anything occupying that space by a fair margin
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:55 pm
by 64hz
Gaga describes the video as "a celebration of my love and appreciation for the gay community, my admiration of their bravery, their love for one another and their courage in their relationships. In the video I'm pining for the love of my gay friends--but they just don't want me to be with them."
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:01 pm
by knell
64hz wrote:
Gaga describes the video as "a celebration of my love and appreciation for the gay community, my admiration of their bravery, their love for one another and their courage in their relationships. In the video I'm pining for the love of my gay friends--but they just don't want me to be with them."
ah... it's all so clear now...!
...? she is bizarre. plus, i highly doubt she writes/directs her own videos, so she probably just makes up arbitrary meanings as she goes along
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:19 pm
by 64hz
no a guy called steven(?) klein does, but apparantly she gets alot of creative input in both her songs and videos(well alot relative to other pop artists!)
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:21 pm
by WhosZena
knell wrote:
WhosZena? wrote:Please! Who cares if she has a new video!?(okay silly question)But as soon as the music comes in it reminds how all her stuff sounds the same.
"shes so different" "she makes such a statement" --Oh piss off! I hate the fact that whenever an artist makes a 'statement' it takes 10x as long to forget they ever existed. They get indented into the pop world as some kind of God. It must be all the symbols
Also I want to say a personal thanks to her many producers and make-up artists and fashon designers and directors and managers and hairdressers and doctors and cooks and drivers and record companies and assistants and shit sweepers and FUCKING FANS!
Where would we all be without you guys?
but, but but!!!!! she has deep, spiritual lyrics such as wanting to ride on my disco stick!!!!
my DISCO...STICK... are you blind to the truth? do you not see the profound meaning behind that!>!>!>!?
haha, she's like electronic pop marilyn manson, it's all about shock value and weirdness combined with waste lyrics
I see know profound meaning behind disco stick whatsoever, I always pictured something like these.
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:45 pm
by hackman
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:03 am
by particle-jim
WhosZena? wrote:Please! Who cares if she has a new video!?(okay silly question)But as soon as the music comes in it reminds how all her stuff sounds the same.
"shes so different" "she makes such a statement" --Oh piss off! I hate the fact that whenever an artist makes a 'statement' it takes 10x as long to forget they ever existed. They get indented into the pop world as some kind of God. It must be all the symbols
i think u may have missed the point of the symbolism, there are constant recurring themes and not so subtle references to dark dark shit (occultism, mind control etc...) in her videos and i don't trust it, all the same themes are constantly popping up in many many other 'pop' videos http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676 http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2614 http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2737 http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423
(Disclaimer: i don't agree fully with the author of these articles that it is due to "the illuminati" or anything but i do agree that it is very very sinister)
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:04 am
by particle-jim
hackman wrote:
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:09 am
by wolf89
BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Fear not chaps!
Seems it's more of a homage to this wonderful chap and his mystic psychoshamanism.., Had a mate at uni that was reall into this guys stuff for some reason http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky
Part of me wonders if the music company just saw the massive market for this stuff... You lot love it like a middle aged women loves gossip
Don't compare the awesomeness of Jodorowsky to the shittyness of Lady Gaga.
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:28 am
by Pistonsbeneath
In the past, when changes were imposed on populations, they would take to the streets, protest and even riot. The main reason for this clash was due to the fact that the change was clearly announced by the rulers and understood by the population. It was sudden and its effects could clearly be analyzed and evaluated. Today, when the elite needs a part of its agenda to be accepted by the public, it is done through desensitization. The agenda, which might go against the public best interests, is slowly, gradually and repetitively introduced to the world through movies (by involving it within the plot), music videos (who make it cool and sexy) or the news (who present it as a solution to today’s problems). After several years of exposing the masses to a particular agenda, the elite openly presents the concept the world and, due to mental programming, it is greeted with general indifference and is passively accepted. This technique originates from psychotherapy.
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:33 am
by wolf89
Is everyone really getting all tin foil hat crew all over a fucking Lady Gaga video?
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:39 am
by Pistonsbeneath
you're blind or at least aspire to be
the influence this kind of media has outstrips pretty much everything else..
Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:43 am
by wolf89
Really? You think that it's not all just a marketing ploy on Gaga and her labels behalf?
