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when people make movies about the universe being a dream, they are NOT COPYING EACH OTHER. they either KNOW that the universe is a dream, or they follow a religion that says so (buddhism, hinduism, gnosticism, hermeticism, etc)

knell wrote:

parson wrote:of course the whole movie is a dream. it's about operating within the dream. they know this universe is a dream.

hmm but in the previews it sounds like they're going into people's dreams within a stable universe...??? maybe i need to watch them again

That's the impression I got; going into people's dreams.

Do you agree with solipsism?

as above so below

it's all a dream within a dream within a dream

nicenice wrote:Do you agree with solipsism?

solipsism is so depressing

For me it makes a lot of sense, everyone's "reality" is different, be it our opinions to our perception. I've had moments when something clear too other people is distorted for me. Everything that happens is just the past which just makes everything a memory which just makes it a part of our mind. And drugs like datura can be used an example as well.

parson wrote:as above so below

it's all a dream within a dream within a dream

why not a reality inside a reality inside a reality?

because dream is more accurate

there's a realer reality but it ain't here

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.

parson wrote:when people make movies about the universe being a dream, they are NOT COPYING EACH OTHER. they either KNOW that the universe is a dream, or they follow a religion that says so (buddhism, hinduism, gnosticism, hermeticism, etc)

So people make movies about facts or religion and that's that?

Couldn't they just make a movie about the universe being a dream because they like it as an idea to write about?

let me tell you a thing or two about kabbalah and jewlywood...

um, no

Movies are just movies often. I don't think the new Transformers was made because Michael Bay believes they exist.

i'm not trying to argue with you but you have no idea what youre talking about.

parson wrote:i'm not trying to argue with you but you have no idea what youre talking about.

No, I have no idea what You're talking about.

As far as I could see you were implying that any director that made a film about living in a dream believed it themselves which doesn't have any logic to it.

i think it is fallacious to presume that the director is making any calls. within the hollywood system the only function of a director is to get the job done. what the job is, is determined by the producers. the producers are rich jews.

it never ends

parson wrote:i think it is fallacious to presume that the director is making any calls. within the hollywood system the only function of a director is to get the job done. what the job is, is determined by the producers. the producers are rich jews.

Oh man, you're seriously going down that route.

Really I'm not there is any influence on the vast majority of movies and I still don't see how you can make any assumptions about this film. It's just a movie really. and the director doesn't do anything? Nope that's just horse shit.

i'm not trying to argue or debate. i'm explaining to you how it works since you seem to be confused.

parson wrote:i'm not trying to argue or debate. i'm explaining to you how it works since you seem to be confused.

It doesn't work like that. The director still gets a say. Otherwise how do films have a specific signature style to them depending on the director. It's not all some conspiracy. Michael Bay makes films that are mindless with explosions. David Lynch does what ever he wants it seems. It's not all some conspiracy between millionaire jews.

michael bay gets paid to make the movie. he is a competent hired gun. transformers is by no means his vision. i don't know how else to explain this to you.