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u gotta stop chasing the 'big names' sound and work on something that suits your musical style. well, thats the way I look at it. I've been producing for a few months and I feel myself developing. If you can look at what your doing in a positive light and keep improving your methods you'll get a lot of satisfaction out of the process. I once heard some band I was into saying that they finish everything they start writing even if it sucks so they get closure and can move on, so that's a philosophy I've taken in my production. and yea agree with the post about hits =/= quality, I mean just look at that mt eden song.

Sharmaji wrote: get in the mindset to always push further than what you're comfortable with. New bits of kit, approaching something beyond your skill level, using shit the wong way, etc-- all of these are great ways to move into something that's fresh, uncharted territory for YOU.

if you're still finding your comfort zone: again, sorry to be devil's advocate but i rarely hear something amazing from folks in that position. It certainly does happen tho, and it's remarkeable when it does, but usually a stroke of luck. The amazing tunes that come out of nowhere from someone you've never heard of before-- that person's usually got dozens of finished tunes on their hard drive.

why?

cuz they knew those tunes sucked takes time to move beyond that, and incredible restraint to keep your suckage to yourself and the circle closest to you, and some serious confidence to believe that you don't inherently suck-- just that the tunes you're currently making do.

allow yourself to suck. embrace it, even. but learn from your suckage and find yr voice!

Wise words

To OP - okay your music totally sucks, no one other than people that like you will ever listen to or like your music... What do you do? If you stop making music because of this, okay fine, no loss. Making music for recognition or financial gain is silly.

But why not use that freedom to make whatever the fuck you want to make, to whatever standard you want. Just do whatever the fuck you want to do. I think you are starting to realize that you are FREE. You are free to do and make anything you want. I know this is scary, but it is the reality of your situation. Go for it, no one is watching over your shoulder, do what you want.

Hurtdeer wrote:talent is a myth instilled in people to make art seem divine, knowledge can be learned, and inspiration comes from experience.

This is a myth propagated by people with talent. There are people with musical talent, brains just wired for music. You have to realize this. Then again, you may not because you are one of those people. Talent exists. But unless it is truly immense, it is not enough. Hard work is of course required. Anyone can work very hard and achieve some degree of quality output. But when you have talent and you work very hard, you get really special works.

Sharmaji wrote:takes ... incredible restraint to keep your suckage to yourself and the circle closest to you, and some serious confidence to believe that you don't inherently suck-- just that the tunes you're currently making do.

Great advice. Separate your self worth from the quality of your work! If you're making musical decisions attempting to validate yourself, your music will always be cautious and insecure and just generally suckagedy.

nowaysj wrote: This is a myth propagated by people with talent. There are people with musical talent, brains just wired for music. You have to realize this. Then again, you may not because you are one of those people. Talent exists. But unless it is truly immense, it is not enough. Hard work is of course required. Anyone can work very hard and achieve some degree of quality output. But when you have talent and you work very hard, you get really special works.

good point man, maybe certain minds being wired up for music straightaway is what's called talent. I've just always believed that the amount of work put in could surpass any need for this talent- and always felt it was a shame when people said to me they'd like to make music, but couldn't because "they're not talented enough".

really i just love making this crap and want others to love making other crap too

abZ wrote: Music isn't for everyone for a lot of reasons. For one you have to be dedicated to it and it takes up a lot of your time. I do agree that talent is kind of a myth yet some people catch on quicker than others. My development has been very slow as a matter of fact. But I kept cracking away and there is still a ton of growing for left no question but I really wouldn't want it any other way. The quicker you master things the quicker you get bored.

amen to that
still glad to be in a place where my DAWs still surprise me with new things