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bilsner wrote:After reading a comment on this very forum I ditched the sub i was using in albino and looped a small (1 cycle) section of the tail of an 808 kick and I have to say the results were a MUCH more usable sub and if I were to pick one word to describe it .. MEATY would spring to mind. Give it a go it may be exactly what you want, it was for me altho YMMV.

808 kicks are a sine wave with some white noise added. Thats what gives you the meatyness. 808 subs are wicked man.

Project_B wrote:

corpu5 wrote:lol a sine wave is just a sine wave. wtf is all this nonsense, sub-basses are like the simplest thing ha

while thats true, massive's sine, in my opinion, sounds thinner than the sine sub I can get from 3x3osc

I'm with you on this.

JFK wrote:

bilsner wrote:After reading a comment on this very forum I ditched the sub i was using in albino and looped a small (1 cycle) section of the tail of an 808 kick and I have to say the results were a MUCH more usable sub and if I were to pick one word to describe it .. MEATY would spring to mind. Give it a go it may be exactly what you want, it was for me altho YMMV.

808 kicks are a sine wave with some white noise added. Thats what gives you the meatyness. 808 subs are wicked man.

Not quite. There are harmonics in there, and no (or very little) white noise. The harmonics give it a certain body.

Project_B wrote: while thats true, massive's sine, in my opinion, sounds thinner than the sine sub I can get from 3x3osc

Could someone with FL send me a 24 bit WAV of a couple of cycles of a 3osc sine? I'd be curious to see if it's actually any different. The Massive sine wave is a perfect sine, give or take -100 dB or so of inaudible distortion. Would be interested to see if 3osc isn't.

Project_B wrote: while thats true, massive's sine, in my opinion, sounds thinner than the sine sub I can get from 3x3osc

I agree with this.. well i've never tried 3x3osc but massive's sine does seems weak. I usually tend to lowpass a square wave.. and some times throw a saw in there

Got on my machine to make those samples for you yesterday. Still haven't done it. Will have to wait the better part of another day.

The thing I don't get though the 808 Kick won't isn't exactly a note so it wouldn't work harmonically with things would it?

paravrais wrote:

dav.id wrote:

paravrais wrote:Don't make your sub in massive. There's no point.

why not?

lots of signed artists use it

Yes, I'm not dissing massive (thats another debate for another time, I personally don't really like it but that's not what I'm on about here) it's too powerful to waste on a sub, any synth with a sine wave oscillator will do, most people just use a stock synth that came with their daw for their sub.

So true, i use operator for sub a lot of the time and it rocks. people compliment the sound all the time.

static_cast wrote:Could someone with FL send me a 24 bit WAV of a couple of cycles of a 3osc sine? I'd be curious to see if it's actually any different. The Massive sine wave is a perfect sine, give or take -100 dB or so of inaudible distortion. Would be interested to see if 3osc isn't.

This is 32 bit, hope that's okay.

http://www.mediafire.com/?6r3krlchv2tt51w

http://www.mediafire.com/?nfhz9c7noomog04

Okay, this is an 8 bar loop of pure sines starting at A, each note is just about a half note at 140bpm.