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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by grooki » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:07 am

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by JemGrover » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:10 am

grooki wrote:
JemGrover wrote:Ah, come on.. I've read countless extracts where even the pro's will admit to being a bit lazy at times. I'm sure it takes some kind of genius to be 100% commited 100% of the time...

I guess the pros aren't so PRO AFTER ALL...


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Or maybe it says a lot about the general publics taste in music...?
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by tavravlavish » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:34 am

duck wrote:this is true, but I am hella lazy.
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by ianks » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:43 am

layering multiple samples can fix this problem. listen to what the sample is missing -- is there not enough snap at the beginning? layer a click. not enough body? layer a thicker sample or a pitched down version of the same sample.

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by jaydot » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:22 am

It's not the samples it's what you do with 'em. :mrgreen:

Nah like people have said resample or just do what I did and use google.
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by lowpass » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:51 am

Guys I wanna write a good beat but I'm a bit lazy,

could you write one for me?

also once its signed could you just forward the royalties on to me, I'd do that myself but the darndest thing is.......


















I'm too lazy :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u:

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by jaydot » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:18 am

lowpass wrote:Guys I wanna write a good beat but I'm a bit lazy,

could you write one for me?

also once its signed could you just forward the royalties on to me, I'd do that myself but the darndest thing is.......
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by joekool » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:59 am

lowpass wrote:Guys I wanna write a good beat but I'm a bit lazy,

could you write one for me?

also once its signed could you just forward the royalties on to me, I'd do that myself but the darndest thing is.......


















I'm too lazy :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u:
if someone doesn't have mics and shit set up and a good A/D converter, it actually can be a huge hassle to record a bunch of little rice sounds that still are nothing near what you want and/or need in a track, so chill on half-assedly lecturing kids about their work ethic/making dumb jokes at their expense. its not supportive or inclusive and it doesnt make you look HELLA XXXTRA PRO in front of all your internet friends.

OP, white noise is your friend. i find that there's not much hat-wise that i can't do between white noise and layered samples with envelopes on em. also i find that using boatloads of little shaker-y hats is almost always better than using a couple big chunky ones. as far as a good sample kit to start from, i would suggest checking out some artytorrent's packs online, he's got a lotta good material. beyond that the ballistix packs are good, and i had a lion audio (? i think that was the name ?) pack a long while back that blew everything else out of the water. i should really try and find that again...

good luck to ya and PM me if you're still havin any trouble findin some good sets..
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by stereotactic » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:23 pm

if someone doesn't have mics and shit set up and a good A/D converter, it actually can be a huge hassle to record a bunch of little rice sounds that still are nothing near what you want and/or need in a track, so chill on half-assedly lecturing kids about their work ethic/making dumb jokes at their expense. its not supportive or inclusive and it doesnt make you look HELLA XXXTRA PRO in front of all your internet friends.
You clearly missed the bit where he said he was TOO LAZY, not that he didn't have X, Y or Z.

Perhaps think before lecturing people about lecturing people, when the 'jokes' where actually referencing the OP not getting off his ass to make the effort with his materials, not 'ha ha, we iz pro's and you iz not'. Did you not read?

What's to say he isn't too lazy to layer white noise and multi samples like you suggest, or search the internet?
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by lowpass » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:24 pm

joekool wrote:
lowpass wrote:Guys I wanna write a good beat but I'm a bit lazy,

could you write one for me?

also once its signed could you just forward the royalties on to me, I'd do that myself but the darndest thing is.......


















I'm too lazy :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u: :u:
if someone doesn't have mics and shit set up and a good A/D converter, it actually can be a huge hassle to record a bunch of little rice sounds that still are nothing near what you want and/or need in a track, so chill on half-assedly lecturing kids about their work ethic/making dumb jokes at their expense. its not supportive or inclusive and it doesnt make you look HELLA XXXTRA PRO in front of all your internet friends.

OP, white noise is your friend. i find that there's not much hat-wise that i can't do between white noise and layered samples with envelopes on em. also i find that using boatloads of little shaker-y hats is almost always better than using a couple big chunky ones. as far as a good sample kit to start from, i would suggest checking out some artytorrent's packs online, he's got a lotta good material. beyond that the ballistix packs are good, and i had a lion audio (? i think that was the name ?) pack a long while back that blew everything else out of the water. i should really try and find that again...

good luck to ya and PM me if you're still havin any trouble findin some good sets..
The guy wanted to know how to get good hi-hat samples, MAD EP typed up a few ways he could do this,

If the guy had then said "okay I tried it, even though I struggled with setting the mics up, my A/D converter wasn't that great and it was a hassle, I managed to get some sounds. The problem is they still don't sound that great" Then we could say okay man fair play, why don't you try "generic processing chain A"

Instead the response we got back was "I would but I'm too lazy"

This gives the impression that this person wants to do nothing but find the quickest/easiest way to making a track. If it's such a hassle in the first place then why even bother writing a track? let alone posting about it on an online forum?

And yes I was digging at this guy because I have spent hours trying out different methods to get my drum hits up to scratch (to the point of spending 2 hours on a single snare, layering, processing etc) I've bothered to set up my microphone through my not very good soundcard and yes the hits obviously weren't that great but I worked at them until they were.

The quickest / easiest way isn't always the best, it's just the fastest. Working these things out and spending a little more time will always be the more productive option.

Apologies to the OP, I have nothing against you I just think that if you want to make something worth listening to then it couldn't kill you to fix up your work ethic a bit. As I said it may be harder but you'll get more out of it.

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by duck » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:58 pm

jeez, this forum is fun these days innit?

um, I COULD stand around sampling my keys for the whole day before sifting through them to find exactly the sound I want, but what with having a fcuking day job, enjoying going out, liking to watch a movie now and then, blazing, chasing women, having to keep fit, DJ-ing and all that sh1t, what i'd really like is just a CD/download pack of nice (preferably "real" studio sounding) hats.

I thought *maybe* someone would know a decent one.

Now, if I'm expecting to become the world's greatest producer and quit the day job, then sure, I probably need to put in some more effort. Although I'm fairly sure not into recording and/or synthesizing my own hi hat samples, that seems like a total waste of time either way tbh.

the lazy thing was a bit of a joke tbh, I just don't have enough time to do everything I wanna do.

aaaaaanyway.

p.s. Samurai, I'm not changing the username - it's my actual name.

cheers though guys, love ya....

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by duck » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:59 pm

p.s. cheers JoeKool, that's the post I wanted.

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by duck » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:02 pm

stereotactic wrote: What's to say he isn't too lazy to layer white noise and multi samples like you suggest, or search the internet?
I can search the internet - I was asking for personal recommendations.

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by Echoi » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:08 pm

duck wrote:synthesizing my own hi hat samples, that seems like a total waste of time either way tbh.
Never occured to you that you may just come up with something unique then?

Or the satisfaction of learning new techniques?

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by lowpass » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:12 pm

Echoi wrote:
duck wrote:synthesizing my own hi hat samples, that seems like a total waste of time either way tbh.
Never occured to you that you may just come up with something unique then?

Or the satisfaction of learning new techniques?

:roll:
We aren't going to get through to him, he's too busy apparently.

@OP Just download the vengeance sample pack, shouldn't take more than 10 minutes of your time then you can get back to the gym and the rest of your life :wink:

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by legend4ry » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:13 pm

drokkr wrote:
Sharmaji wrote:
duck wrote:this is true, but I am hella lazy.
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by Hurtdeer » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:19 pm

come on guys, not everyone is as much of a massively obsessive music nerd as we are


i'm well lazy in other departments of my life but it doesn't mean i want to stop

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by duck » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:22 pm

Echoi wrote:
duck wrote:synthesizing my own hi hat samples, that seems like a total waste of time either way tbh.
Never occured to you that you may just come up with something unique then?

Or the satisfaction of learning new techniques?
it's a choice innit - do I want to have totally original hi-hats no-one's ever heard before.... or do I want to actually have time to finish a tune now and then?

I really seriously doubt every record you love started with someone sampling their keys or synthesising their own hats, I reckon plenty of them have samples on. besides the fact that you can alter that hi hat sample from a CD however you want as audio anyway. Personally for the way I wanna work, having a big bank of hi hat samples I can audition and then fcuk with later - that's what i want. If you want to spend half the day synthesizing your own, wicked. it'd be dreadful if we were all the same wouldn't it?

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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by legend4ry » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:24 pm

Hi-hats are all about the groove not the sound-per say..

Just get a 909 pack, EQ some of the mids outta the hats and boom... Thats 70% of dubstep tunes hi hat sounds..
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Re: My hi hat samples are a bit rubbish

Post by Echoi » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:27 pm

duck wrote:
Echoi wrote:
duck wrote:synthesizing my own hi hat samples, that seems like a total waste of time either way tbh.
Never occured to you that you may just come up with something unique then?

Or the satisfaction of learning new techniques?
it's a choice innit - do I want to have totally original hi-hats no-one's ever heard before.... or do I want to actually have time to finish a tune now and then?

I really seriously doubt every record you love started with someone sampling their keys or synthesising their own hats, I reckon plenty of them have samples on. besides the fact that you can alter that hi hat sample from a CD however you want as audio anyway. Personally for the way I wanna work, having a big bank of hi hat samples I can audition and then fcuk with later - that's what i want. If you want to spend half the day synthesizing your own, wicked. it'd be dreadful if we were all the same wouldn't it?
Ok, fair do's. I was just trying to make the point that synthing a hat is not a total waste of time.

Seeing as it takes very little time to do anyways. If your entire hat collection is pants, try synthing some, they will be brand spanking new and sparkly clean with a touch of EQ

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