Fuck the loudness wars

[deadly_habit]

pshhh damn kids hating on spinal tap hitting the 11 on the gain knob

[Phigure]

i think the fuzziness and distortion you're hearing could be compression artifacts (since you're listening to it at a shitty bit rate)

[Depone]

I definitely hear the damage in the treble, ware most of the tell tell signs of over limiting exist. When you push a limiter too damn hard thats usually the first to crumble due to its extremely fast transient properties.

[jsilver]

a multiband compressor will smash dynamics and is no substitute for real mastering

however these tools can be used properly like anything else and can be invaluable when u wanna play out your unreleased stuff and mix them with stuff that has been mastered

but it's not a substitute for proper mixing either... there's needs to be more info about how to properly mix digitally imo

my 2c

[eskmo / welder]

In the last few weeks I've been going back and re-purchasing a lot of my favorite DJ'ing tunes in .wav format. When re-acquiring my Eskmo collection, I stumbled upon a new Eskmo remix of a Spor tune. Excited about the prospect of a delicious new Eskmo tune, I purchased it after giving a brief listen on the site's shitty lo-fi audio player. Listening to the tune today, I noticed it sounded fuzzy every time there was a bassline note or a sub bass hit. I opened it up in a wave editor to see this:



Fucking outrageous. The audio is in the red for about 95% of the entire song. There's a lot of brickwall mastering these days where people put a limiter RIGHT before it peaks and crank the gain way up so it's not quite peaking but it sounds OMG SO FUCKING LOUD & HARD HITTING, effectively ruining dynamics and sound subtleties in the process. This, however takes it to a whole new level. It's just peaking...for most of the tune. It sounds fucking horrible. Listen...

http://radio.earstroke.com/shitwall.mp3
http://radio.earstroke.com/shitwall.mp3

It's not something like Clark's crazy sound auteur idea of using compression & limiting as a type of dynamic instruments in the song, it's straight up ignorance on the part of sound engineers and the producers who just say "yeah that sounds heavy, bro, awesome"). Why doesn't anybody realize that a DJ or a home listener CAN EASILY JUST TURN THE VOLUME KNOB UP IF THEY WANT IT LOUDER without the track having to be totally butchered before it even gets to the consumer?

This is why all the DJs and clubgoers are deaf anymore.

Howdy,

Someone mentioned this thread to me, and I also saw that you had posted this same thread on WATMM forum.
Figured I would just add in a word in case this gets spread around even more. If you had only mentioned your preference of mastering, I wouldn't bother saying anything, but i want to make sure there isn't a corrupt file being sold.

All aesthetics and personal tastes aside, just wanted to let you know the file you have posted there (the audio clip) appears to be messed up.
Not the picture of your wav, as that's how my final bounce down looks as well (roughly) but that audio clip is certainly distorted.


If you listen to the same track at any of these links, they don't sound distorted...
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/300900-spor-es ... cision-mix
http://soundcloud.com/eskmo/spor-knock- ... skmo-remix
even the youtube clip sounds better :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxrBwetoxXM


Only reason i wanted to speak up is perhaps the file you bought is corrupted / or the store selling it has a corrupt file (?) im not sure.
All I know is the file I have here doesn't sound that way, and shouldn't.

If you would like the proper WAV, i'd be happy to give it to ya.

Best,
B

[deadly_habit]

eskmowned?

[Phigure]

As stated before, the distortion is possibly compression artifacts, which are most of the time really only audible at low bitrates

eskmowned?