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sixth sense wrote:Hey! big up Dj Madd, one of my favorite tracks by you would be Reasonz and I was wondering how you went about making the main lead sound its kind of like a laser beam was this something you sampled or synthesized yourself? if so could you lean me in the right directed on how you created this I have been trying to reproduce this sound for awhile now.
Cheers.
Hello mate,
Do you mean the 8bit bleeps that come in a bit later? I used a freeware vst called MiniSid check it out here http://delamancha.co.uk/freeware.htm
It's pretty much a simple arpeggio with some delay / chorus on top maybe. Let me know if thats the one you meant
Yes, the 8bit sounds that come in later are right thanks for sharing that site many nice freeware vst's on there! cheers for the reply as well.
I'm really rating your stuff at the moment, particularly dub marine (and the kryptic mindz remix). Absolute banger of a tune, I was wandering if you could tell us how you made that bass line? When I try and make subby lines they tend to be pretty rigid, yours seem to flow about nicely :)
Big up, keep on making them sweet noises!
ez!
the bass in that tune was made out of different samples chopped up, a simple sine with an amp modulation to give it some movement and the second part was a cleaned up version of an older reece thats kinda similar to the famous terrorist reece just with the high and minds cut off
if you want a big bass with a good kick still in there you really have to sidechain, ever since i started using the db audioware plugin i can get much more out of the low-ends, it's so simple to use too so i defo recommend it if you don't want to go trough the hassle of routing all kinds of compressors around.
sixth sense wrote:Hey! big up Dj Madd, one of my favorite tracks by you would be Reasonz and I was wondering how you went about making the main lead sound its kind of like a laser beam was this something you sampled or synthesized yourself? if so could you lean me in the right directed on how you created this I have been trying to reproduce this sound for awhile now.
Cheers.
Hello mate,
Do you mean the 8bit bleeps that come in a bit later? I used a freeware vst called MiniSid check it out here http://delamancha.co.uk/freeware.htm
It's pretty much a simple arpeggio with some delay / chorus on top maybe. Let me know if thats the one you meant
Yes, the 8bit sounds that come in later are right thanks for sharing that site many nice freeware vst's on there! cheers for the reply as well.
No worries man,
If you want some nice 8bit bleepy vibes i recommend these plugins:
When creating a tune, where do you start first? Do you have a general structure in which you produce, or do you simply go with whatever feels right at the time?
For example, do you tend to build the tune from the drop onwards and then strip things down and add bits for the intro/breakdown etc? Or create an intro first, then decide at the drop how you would like the tune to sound?
When creating a tune, where do you start first? Do you have a general structure in which you produce, or do you simply go with whatever feels right at the time?
For example, do you tend to build the tune from the drop onwards and then strip things down and add bits for the intro/breakdown etc? Or create an intro first, then decide at the drop how you would like the tune to sound?
Thanks!
I don't have a strict way of doing things but lately I been writing the main element of the tune and onwards from that.
What I found useful is after I have the main bit of the tune i do a copy+paste and mute / strip the elements for the intro and breakdown so I quickly churn out the intro/drop/part1/breakdown/part2/outro of the tune. This way even tho i only have a few bar loop I can already see the whole tune in a very basic and loopey state, but somehow that pushes me to finish it more like having to stare at a 4-8 bar loop.
Madd - First off, love the sound your pushing - like a Subtitles take on Dubstep. Loved the split with Matt-U.
Was wondering how you go about your sub bass sounds. Do you use raw synthesis and then effect the rendered audio or do you use samples withing samplers like Kontakt etc? If so do you have a main source for sounds?
Also when you write your basslines do you write by ear or do you follow specific scales etc?
rhek wrote:Madd - First off, love the sound your pushing - like a Subtitles take on Dubstep. Loved the split with Matt-U.
Was wondering how you go about your sub bass sounds. Do you use raw synthesis and then effect the rendered audio or do you use samples withing samplers like Kontakt etc? If so do you have a main source for sounds?
Also when you write your basslines do you write by ear or do you follow specific scales etc?
Locustlung.
Actually I use samples on audio tracks. Basically I import a sample then start to duplicate and pitch it around to get a melody - my project files probably look like a mess lol.
I used to be into Kontakt but then I realised I can work much faster if everything is in audio tracks apart from the odd vst synth.
I don't really have a main source for sounds, I did make a few subs with Soundforge synthesis + always checking around for some 808 packs on the net but at the moment that usually does it for me.
For the rest I pretty much freestyle, I sample movies / old funk stuff and for synths and pads I use Sylenth / Albino / Massive etc.
In my opinion its better to pick your 4-5 favourite sub samples and keep tweaking those. I always preferred layering so If i already have my rumbling sub in there I can always add some interesting synths with either samples or plugins, but I never used 1 source for both synth and sub if that makes sence. I know some people just push the bottom of a synth-line which can give you some bass but I think a pure sub underneath to start with is always your best pick.
I do everything by ear, unfortunately I never got into the compositon side of things seriously but this seems to work out alright so far. :)
riskotheque wrote:Hi mate!
just wanted to say 'good old days' is awesome!
are you still making any dnb or are you purely dubstep now?
do you do any self mastering before sending unsigned tracks out? if, so, how do you go about this?
nice one!
8)
ps... any recommendations on good avgn's to watch? ;)
Yo Joel !
I'm thinking about making more dnb but to be honest I always end up with something else, not sure why but these days I can't really get my head around it..
Some 140 bpm jungle are more likely to pop up sooner 8)
I do work on the final mixdown and most of my tunes sound identical on vinyl as they sound on my computer
(i don't put anything on the master channel so I leave all the the compression / limiting part to the vinyl master guys tbh i fail to see the point)
It's a tricky one, I do everything by ear and I think I just got used to how things should sound I guess? I been working with the same Behringer Truth monitors ever since I started
producing more seriously and I wouldn't swap them for anything cause I just know how things should sound on them.
The plugins I use are again very basic.. I use the kjaerhus free eq the mostly and thats a very basic eq and even tho there are much better plugs out there I prefer that one.
Apart from the sidechain compressor i don't compress anything and i never use a limiter.. it's all eq and i prefer it this way.
First of all big up, feeling your warm musical sound. Especially U/It's over with Von D. Wondering how you went about getting your first release, making the move from bedroom producer to someone with a string of releases etc.
green plan wrote:First of all big up, feeling your warm musical sound. Especially U/It's over with Von D. Wondering how you went about getting your first release, making the move from bedroom producer to someone with a string of releases etc.
ez man,
I think i had a pretty standard route with the tunes. I was sending them around for years but nothing happened (this was dnb mostly) then after that I got sucked into the whole dubstep thing and It picked up much faster.
If you want a tip - hold out on the tunes! I have a few releases which I'm sure could've ended up on better labels or some that shouldn't come out at all. Theres not much to do now and It's not a big deal really.
The whole 'get your tune on a vinyl' thing sounded so nice to me in the beginning that I didn't even think that saying no sometimes works out better in the end :)
The best thing to do is pick your favourite artists / labels and keep sending the tunes to them as long as they don't reply. The good thing in dubstep/bass music is that (the right people) just want good music and the whole politics/loudness/etc. bullshit is not out there imo. Some might argue with that but compared to other genres I think you have a pretty good chance of getting a reply from the big names if you have something decent to offer.
green plan wrote:First of all big up, feeling your warm musical sound. Especially U/It's over with Von D. Wondering how you went about getting your first release, making the move from bedroom producer to someone with a string of releases etc.
ez man,
I think i had a pretty standard route with the tunes. I was sending them around for years but nothing happened (this was dnb mostly) then after that I got sucked into the whole dubstep thing and It picked up much faster.
If you want a tip - hold out on the tunes! I have a few releases which I'm sure could've ended up on better labels or some that shouldn't come out at all. Theres not much to do now and It's not a big deal really.
The whole 'get your tune on a vinyl' thing sounded so nice to me in the beginning that I didn't even think that saying no sometimes works out better in the end
The best thing to do is pick your favourite artists / labels and keep sending the tunes to them as long as they don't reply. The good thing in dubstep/bass music is that (the right people) just want good music and the whole politics/loudness/etc. bullshit is not out there imo. Some might argue with that but compared to other genres I think you have a pretty good chance of getting a reply from the big names if you have something decent to offer.
Wicked advice there man, cheers. Will be waiting a bit then might start sending.
Seeing as not too many other crew asking questions I got another. You ever thought of doing a live show? Thoughts on them?
green plan wrote:Wicked advice there man, cheers. Will be waiting a bit then might start sending.
Seeing as not too many other crew asking questions I got another. You ever thought of doing a live show? Thoughts on them?
Yeah I would be well up for it one day but I wouldn't want it to be a 1 laptop thing, so I promised myself if I ever do a live thing It will be something interesting with a few different controllers etc.
I do like them tho but most of the time the live things aren't that live and thats not the way:)
What do you do if you find yourself in a horrific writer's block? :)
Cheers for doing this, mad props!
it happens but as the unfinished bits pile up jumping from project to project helps to bounce new ideas around
also different tempos / genres usually help me to get some new ideas on the roll
another thing i do when i have zero ideas on a tune - i start to go around searching for samples! this helps a lot, you just need to hear that one little bit that will start up the creativity i guess :)
one of the key things would be not to listen to the genre you write 24/7 all day.
I try to minimise the 'strict bassmusic' I listen to in my freetime and that usually translates to a much more fun session or dj set
