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Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:25 pm
by abZ
I really dont have a recommendation because I use 20 Dollar Sony's. You really don't want them as an all in one solution anyway.
A brand you shouldn't overlook is Ultrasone. I want a pair for djing myself but not till the Sony's die or mysteriously get misplaced lol.
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:46 pm
by Tubby
I'm complicating things too much, I'm sorry. How about recommendations for headphones/in ear for listening to dubstep and bass heavy genres. I'm thinking of getting beat tours because they look so goddam sexy.
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:31 pm
by 3za
I have said it before, and will say it again for a fair priced set of cans for production the AKG K240's are the way to go imo. In this market the Sennheiser HD280 are also worth a look. As Abz said, "studio cans like k240 are pretty boring to listen to but accurate and flat" this is very true, that's why I use my Sennheiser hd 215's for listening/DJing in the house. I also use a beaten up pair of sony's that seem like they will never die, for when on the move. Got to say im also with Deadly with the not liking the in-ear's, I have tried a few pairs, and I must say I was amazed with how they sounded, and the bass response was very good for such little drivers... But I think they are so much worst then cans for your hearing, so I will not use them, even ear-buds.
IMHO on your budget i would get;
AKG K240: £85 for production
Sennheiser hd 215: £30 for listening/DJing
OR
If you really only want one pair, you can get some Sennheiser HD-25(£150), they are the best one size fits all cans I have uesd (I have not tried the Grado's, or Ultrosone's, but have heard good things.
As this is this weeks, weekly headphone thread... Has any seen/tried the new KRK headphones?

Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:40 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
Anyone checked out them new KRK headphones yet?
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:55 pm
by Tubby
3za wrote:I have said it before, and will say it again for a fair priced set of cans for production the AKG K240's are the way to go imo. In this market the Sennheiser HD280 are also worth a look. As Abz said, "studio cans like k240 are pretty boring to listen to but accurate and flat" this is very true, that's why I use my Sennheiser hd 215's for listening/DJing in the house. I also use a beaten up pair of sony's that seem like they will never die, for when on the move. Got to say im also with Deadly with the not liking the in-ear's, I have tried a few pairs, and I must say I was amazed with how they sounded, and the bass response was very good for such little drivers... But I think they are so much worst then cans for your hearing, so I will not use them, even ear-buds.
IMHO on your budget i would get;
AKG K240: £85 for production
Sennheiser hd 215: £30 for listening/DJing
OR
If you really only want one pair, you can get some Sennheiser HD-25(£150), they are the best one size fits all cans I have uesd (I have not tried the Grado's, or Ultrosone's, but have heard good things.
As this is this weeks, weekly headphone thread... Has any seen/tried the new KRK headphones?

Thank you for your post! Quite in-depth
However, i will be using headphones mainly for listening so is it wise to spend more on production headphones? I may just go for all-out listening headphones for now and invest in some production headphones when i get my next paycheck!
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:41 pm
by abZ
I have a friend that loves grados. He has 3 pair. I have only heard the cheaper ones and I was impressed. No one uses them for studio work but that's what they were designed for originally.
I am not a KRK fan. Don't have high expectations for them. You want to stick with the companies that have done this stuff for ages. My k240s are 30 years old. That should tell you something.
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:02 pm
by 3za
Tubby wrote:Thank you for your post! Quite in-depth
However, i will be using headphones mainly for listening so is it wise to spend more on production headphones? I may just go for all-out listening headphones for now and invest in some production headphones when i get my next paycheck!
The main difference between listen headphones, and production headphones, is that the listen headphones "colour" the sound. This colouring is sometimes deliberate, or because they are produced cheaper. This colouring of the sound (Bass boost for example) makes the headphones sound more pleasing when listening. With production headphones colouring the sound is avoided as much as possible, they have a clean sound, with flat response, and a good dynamic. This is to help you hear what is going on in the sound, and not mask it under all the colouring. This is why I agree with what Abz said, about production headphones sounding boring some time. (I like listening to acoustic/jazz on my K240's, but thats about it)
As for spending more on production headphones, then listen ones? I would say, yes. You can pick up some pretty decent listen can's for cheap, but thats not true for production headphones.
If You are looking for some nice listening headphone, have a look at the Grado's/Ultrosone's. As i have said, I have let to try them, but they have some very good reviews.

Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:10 pm
by deadly_habit
when it comes to bass music my srh750dj are killer to listen on as well as spin
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:44 am
by abZ
deadly habit wrote:when it comes to bass music my srh750dj are killer to listen on as well as spin
I'd like to check them out but they have the swivel, fuck the swivel. I want new dj cans but the old ones as crappy as they look still work like new. I'll have to leave them at a club or somethning

Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:52 am
by deadly_habit
the swivel is essential
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:53 am
by abZ
deadly habit wrote:the swivel is essential
I despise the swivel. It is also the place where all those headphones break eventually.
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:56 am
by deadly_habit
you'll like the build on these
only thing i've noticed is the earcup faux leather or whatever material is starting to crack a lil, but they come with a replacement set from the get go so even if they do go to shit no biggie
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:04 am
by abZ
deadly habit wrote:you'll like the build on these
only thing i've noticed is the earcup faux leather or whatever material is starting to crack a lil, but they come with a replacement set from the get go so even if they do go to shit no biggie
Wrong, they built it with the swivel
Sure incidentally makes the best in-ears in the game from what I gather but they are mad expensive. I never want to sink 600 bucks into something that could just accidentally fall out of my pocket and be lost forever.
Just for shits and giggles I'll post up this pic. Considered by some to be the holy grail of headphones and surprise surprise they are Sony's. Our of print now. I think they go for over 10 grand. Apparently the manual is bound in linen. I wouldn't think a company like Sony would even have the time for products liek this.
http://www.themegifts.com/audiophile/pr ... sonr1O.htm
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:10 am
by deadly_habit
http://boingboing.net/2005/11/07/astron ... overp.html

silly audiophiles
almost as funny as people who buy monster midi cables
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:24 am
by abZ
Some shit is ridiculous. I tried telling my audiophile buddy that these headphone companies make their headphones sound shitty on purpose so they can charge as much as they do for the top of the line models. Seriously, give me a good reason why one model is 50 bucks and another is 500? It's the same fucking material! The manufacturing costs should be the same no? Explain this to me.
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:26 am
by deadly_habit
abZ wrote:
Some shit is ridiculous. I tried telling my audiophile buddy that these headphone companies make their headphones sound shitty on purpose so they can charge as much as they do for the top of the line models. Seriously, give me a good reason why one model is 50 bucks and another is 500? It's the same fucking material! The manufacturing costs should be the same no? Explain this to me.
business 101 and capitalism in action

Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:14 am
by Erebus-7
I have a pair of Shure SE530's for general iPod listening, maybe overkill but i've never heard better earphones in my life, and i've been through so many pairs i've lost count.
I'd go so far as to say they sound better on some songs than my A+H XD53 cans haha
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:38 am
by abZ
Erebus-7 wrote:I have a pair of Shure SE530's for general iPod listening, maybe overkill but i've never heard better earphones in my life, and i've been through so many pairs i've lost count.
I'd go so far as to say they sound better on some songs than my A+H XD53 cans haha
I have no doubt they do. A&H isn't really known for cans... in fact I didn't know they made cans at all. Did you really pay 550$ or whatever for them? I just can't imagine parting ways with that much money for in-ears. I speant 270 on the AKG and believe that was splurging for me. That much for speakers, no prob.
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:05 am
by Mushroom Buttons
abZ wrote:My k240s are 30 years old. That should tell you something.
When you guys mention k240s do you mean Studio or Monitor?
http://www1.epinions.com/review/AKG_K_2 ... 3075272324
Re: Buying New Headphones
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:10 am
by deadly_habit
studio here