Where Do You Separate Coincidence And Insight?

[knell]

why don't you just flat out tell us what happened

i'd love to, but i've tried to present this thread (even tho i was inebriated at the conception) to create a discussion about coincidence rather than everyone calling me a psycho paranoid weirdo for recognizing patterns that may not exist...

in other words... hopes that i can reach my inner conclusion without sounding like a total crazyman to the whole world

[2manynoobs]

coincidence and luck don't exist (imo), at least certainly not in the corporeal world. They are ideas/imaginations/perhaps even creations of the human way of thinking. Even many purist mathematicians don't like probability and chance.

Flipping a coin is not about luck, chance or probably, it's just physics and quite possibly a few other things as well.

And knell, I think your mind is opening up. From my experience you should try to get the info that the 'coincidence' holds. Sometimes when you make a connection between 2 things, it isn't necessarily something meant to be meaningful, but it can help you to realize some meaningful stuff, because of it

this stuff is like riding the waves: it's fun but it takes some effort to learn

wonderful thread!

[AllNightDayDream]

I get synchronicity like mad all the time, especially when I check my phone for texts and such.

I think you can start moving from coincidence to logical correlation once you experience the same phenomena over and over again. We tend to explain these happenings with mystical simplifications and superstition because we don't yet have tools to measure these things. It's really the sole purpose of superstition, going back to polytheism.

Do I anticipate the text because I have mysterious psychic powers, that my brain can foresee the future, like you see with deja vu? Maybe I look good in front of god and he/she/it tells me these things. Or maybe it's something more tangible. Maybe the recent proliferation of radio and satellite signals has slowly made our brains more attuned to such frequencies, and our brain processes the incoming signal quicker than the phone can. It's easy to see how we can jump to conclusions when you apply logic to something that is relatively unknown and mysterious. Everyone needs to justify their experiences somehow. Even in the scientific realm, though, there's not much room for coincidence.

[clifford_-]

it all comes down to chaos theory from my understanding of life, the universe, and everything.






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[Genevieve]

The article posted expands wonderfully on something I posted earlier. Humans are pattern seeking animals, even though existence is essentially 'patternless'. The human mind is one that desperately tries to put unpredictable phenomena into predictable patterns. Hence things like this.

It's a survival strategy.

the human mind is too limited to ever grasp what's going on a far deeper and more significant level.

You have a human mind and nothing else to compare it with. So you're unaware of its limitations or limitlessness.

[2manynoobs]

Everyone needs to justify their experiences somehow. Even in the scientific realm, though, there's not much room for coincidence.

BRAVO, BRAVO!

[2manynoobs]

The article posted expands wonderfully on something I posted earlier. Humans are pattern seeking animals, even though existence is essentially 'patternless'. The human mind is one that desperately tries to put unpredictable phenomena into predictable patterns. Hence things like this.

It's a survival strategy.

the human mind is too limited to ever grasp what's going on a far deeper and more significant level.

You have a human mind and nothing else to compare it with. So you're unaware of its limitations or limitlessness.

the human mind is. the human hart isn't

[gargantuan]

The article posted expands wonderfully on something I posted earlier. Humans are pattern seeking animals, even though existence is essentially 'patternless'. The human mind is one that desperately tries to put unpredictable phenomena into predictable patterns. Hence things like this.

It's a survival strategy.

coincidences aren't about patterns at all

[ketamine]

why don't you just flat out tell us what happened

i'd love to, but i've tried to present this thread (even tho i was inebriated at the conception) to create a discussion about coincidence rather than everyone calling me a psycho paranoid weirdo for recognizing patterns that may not exist...

in other words... hopes that i can reach my inner conclusion without sounding like a total crazyman to the whole world

Spill it...

[helix]

The article posted expands wonderfully on something I posted earlier. Humans are pattern seeking animals, even though existence is essentially 'patternless'. The human mind is one that desperately tries to put unpredictable phenomena into predictable patterns. Hence things like this.

It's a survival strategy.

the human mind is too limited to ever grasp what's going on a far deeper and more significant level.

You have a human mind and nothing else to compare it with. So you're unaware of its limitations or limitlessness.

the human mind is. the human hart isn't

[sigbowls]

this happens alot to me a little bit ago a popcorn seed flew out of the pan and landed parelel to the carpet and it was also pointing at me

[gargantuan]

this happens alot to me a little bit ago a popcorn seed flew out of the pan and landed parelel to the carpet and it was also pointing at me

you have a carpet in the kitchen and make popcorn in pans?!!

[sigbowls]

its a rug, in the pan is the best way

[knell]

this happens a lot to me a little bit ago a popcorn seed flew out of the pan and landed parelel to the carpet and it was also pointing at me

[ketamine]

This literally just happened a few minutes ago:

I was applying to a Hospital around here, with a very tedious and heavy handed application system, which forced me to feed my dates of employment as decimal numbers and then each task I did at that job as decimal numbers... So I had to find another website with a time calculator... and I found something very very strange... All my past jobs have lasted exactly 2 years 4 months. (2.3 yrs) No more, no less. Always for a different reason, but exactly that number. Either I tire of the job or it tires of me. That is bizarre--not the number itself, but that the number is the SAME



I'm currently unemployed btw, because I was fired, so its not like I'm controlling it... But the job before that I quit of my own volition...

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

What happens when focus is switched the negative side of 'coincidence'? Why are people too optimistic to include such drivel. When a Sunday morning begins with finding out that terminal cancer is back amongst the family, would it be as foolish to draw on irony? Maybe education uses genetics and expectations to negate both coincidence and insight, framing the two as if they're just properties of the desperate or naive as they focus on anything but the negative realities

Just the irony that the majority of 'synchronicities, coincidences or insight' revolve around the most futile of things, in particular desires

[ketamine]

What happens when focus is switched the negative side of 'coincidence'? Why are people too optimistic to include such drivel. When a Sunday morning begins with finding out that terminal cancer is back amongst the family, would it be as foolish to draw on irony? Maybe education uses genetics and expectations to negate both coincidence and insight, framing the two as if they're just properties of the desperate or naive as they focus on anything but the negative realities

Just the irony that the majority of 'synchronicities, coincidences or insight' revolve around the most futile of things, in particular desires

What in the world of words did you just say LOL

[hugh]

This literally just happened a few minutes ago:

I was applying to a Hospital around here, with a very tedious and heavy handed application system, which forced me to feed my dates of employment as decimal numbers and then each task I did at that job as decimal numbers... So I had to find another website with a time calculator... and I found something very very strange... All my past jobs have lasted exactly 2 years 4 months. (2.3 yrs) No more, no less. Always for a different reason, but exactly that number. Either I tire of the job or it tires of me. That is bizarre--not the number itself, but that the number is the SAME



I'm currently unemployed btw, because I was fired, so its not like I'm controlling it... But the job before that I quit of my own volition...

it's possible that because you start to get fed up before the 2.5 years or whatever are up, you may subconciously start to underperform?

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Basically perhaps coincidences revolve around naive fantasies similar to 'delusions of granduer'. Negative 'coincidences' do not really happen because of fear or interest meaning they must be understood
Something as simple as existence being determined by genetics can hurl a big ol' spanner into the works of coincidences
Sure a nice happy bumping into the right girl in the right place is the sugarry ideal coincidence, but life is constantly filled with negative ones people look beyond and begin to explain. It's like saying that only the mathematically naive are impressed by a clock that reads "1:11" for example

Just a few ideas like... Can't help but notice it's more a case of just oppurtunities for a mind to play out fantasies

[hugh]

let's not forget that perception has a strong influence on how you view reality."I looked at the clock at exactly 1:11, how strange" can quickly become "how strange that I looked at the clock at 1:11 and not any other time". Simply rewording the language in your head has been proven scientifically to have a significant impact on how you order events, and hence how they could be perceived.