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Genevieve wrote:

kingldub wrote:Could be wrose though, could be Speedcore, now that stuff is too much for me.

Speedcore is like, the hardest genre in the world to make properly. 99.999999999999999% is utter fucking shit, but when it's good, it's breathtaking. Especially the kind influenced by 20th century avant-garde compositions.

The Hangars Liquides label has released some of the best shit ever.



First half of it is just repetitive hard kicks going 1000 miles per hour (though the groove is good), but the second half is melodic bliss.

Aye, this isn't so bad I guess, get rid of those kicks though.

im sure there was an interview with skream that i saw, and he basically said something along the lines of....

"its the one type of music that i dont think anyone would be pissed about if it was wiped from the face of the earth, apart from maybe a few dutch people...."

i stand by his quote!

Genevieve wrote:

kingldub wrote:Could be wrose though, could be Speedcore, now that stuff is too much for me.

Speedcore is like, the hardest genre in the world to make properly. 99.999999999999999% is utter fucking shit, but when it's good, it's breathtaking. Especially the kind influenced by 20th century avant-garde compositions.

The Hangars Liquides label has released some of the best shit ever.



First half of it is just repetitive hard kicks going 1000 miles per hour (though the groove is good), but the second half is melodic bliss.

YOU KNOW



Euphoric noise. His synth lines fucking slay me

wrexile wrote:
Same here at the moment. Though recently I went on a Sonic Youth & Nels Cline binge which was nice
Also, I quite often put this tune on really loud and listen to every single hit like I used to...

Love the use of the Speak-n-Spell as percussion

stunning tune,really beautiful chords. vsnares is really a favourite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7pjU5sUmzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SElt57lU_Q
these kill.long live the kicks.

clifford_- wrote:im sure there was an interview with skream that i saw, and he basically said something along the lines of....

"its the one type of music that i dont think anyone would be pissed about if it was wiped from the face of the earth, apart from maybe a few dutch people...."

i stand by his quote!

Hahaha it's so funny that many people know it used to be so popular in the Netherlands!

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So are gabber, speedcore, & Hardstyle the same thing?
i really haven't got a clue, but it does remind me of something that should be playing in the underground rave scene in the matrix

hardstyle is not as fast, hardcore is alot of bpm's

ExecutiveRealness wrote:So are gabber, speedcore, & Hardstyle the same thing?
i really haven't got a clue, but it does remind me of something that should be playing in the underground rave scene in the matrix

Speedcore is.. kinda meaningless, really. It's pretty much hardcore at around 250 bpm or higher. Doesn't mean I don't love it, though. There's some really fun speedcore out there.

Gabber is characterized by having a certain distorted kick sound and it's about 150 - 220 bpm. Most of it is probably around 180 or something.

Hardstyle is more of an appropriation of hard trance with some mainstream gabber influences that might be present. It's not really related to hardcore music, to be honest. Or at least not from a cultural standpoint. I don't really know anything about it, but I'm not into it either

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thread lacks gabber piet

and stuff from mokum

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thanks for the clarification, but i think i might appreciate this whole thing from a distance, not that its not good though, just a bit ott for me

He he. Gabber and that whole side of more hardcore techno has always been a mystery to me. Music that fast has never really appealed to me.

That kicks and the way they sound make me laugh quite a bit actually.

But yeah, no disrespect to those who understand and appreciate this stuff. I just can't get my head around it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQxLDaLTQ10

some gabber

love this track. Now thats what I call HARD SHIT

A bit of a bump but I'll try to explain it (I'm Dutch and have listened to hardcore/gabber when I was a little kid and still do on occasion)

So the gabberscene started of somewhere in the mid 90's where the BPM's were much higher than nowadays.

Example of an early hardcore track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MngqTjyye2Q

After the 90's the hardcore sound changed a bit; the BPM's lowered and the kicks got harder.

Another example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fhN4DazDnw

Nowadays the sound is pretty much the same as the vid above and I don't think that it's gonna change in the near future.
It still is very popular in Holland and even abroad (UK, Germany even in the U S of A lol) it's starting to get recognized.

Here's a little taste of how the big party's look like.
Aftermovie Thunderdome 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TFXtjeg ... re=related

That's about it, I hope this info will help you out

this are true gabbers