I Think Me And My Boy Cracked the Formula...

[c-zar]

man, I am just trying to win over fans. Two things I know...

1.) Given all the wack shit that people are vibing to now adays I know I have what it takes.

2.) Other producers are going to hate on my music because it is poppy.

[MKRUGGER]

man, I am just trying to win over fans. Two things I know...

1.) Given all the wack shit that people are vibing to now adays I know I have what it takes.

2.) Other producers are going to hate on my music because it is poppy.

Sounds like I shit on a broken record, just saying..

I'm out now, got stuff to produce.

Toodles.

[c-zar]

so much hate coming from ya'll.

[drokkr]

So much of you coming at all this from the wrong angle. Again.

[c-zar]

but i wasn't even being egotistical. people only criticize like ya'll are doing here when they feel challenged.

[antipode]

Sort the sub out. There is none.

[c-zar]

Sort the sub out. There is none.

thanks for the genuine criticism.

[rogue star]

I see humility is becoming a thing of the past, if you want integrity and some honest feedback, you need to get past this stand off-ish attitude.

People will respond to you better if your a little more humble. Also if you really want to make an impact, hone your skill, work it up to the best it can be and make sure there is plenty of it in "the trunk" and then deliver the product. If your set on your idea make it the best you can.

[MKRUGGER]

I see humility is becoming a thing of the past, if you want integrity and some honest feedback, you need to get past this stand off-ish attitude.

People will respond to you better if your a little more humble. Also if you really want to make an impact, hone your skill, work it up to the best it can be and make sure there is plenty of it in "the trunk" and then deliver the product. If your set on your idea make it the best you can.

Exactly.

And you should never get to a point where you say "I've made it" .. Because you should forever be open to progress, and get better.. and LEARN MORE.

Not "I've discovered the best sound, I feel I am at the top level now, and no one else can ever match this sound, have a listen loser: "

No, you have to be humble, and ask people nicely, if they would have a listen, and HOPE for feedback.

And if the feedback is negative, it's most likely not because the person is "jealous" or targeting you, it's just honesty.

[c-zar]

if i would have asked nicely noone would respond. i know, i've tried it.

[Echoi]

if i would have asked nicely noone would respond. i know, i've tried it.

So the only option is to hype something to be what it isnt?

Or simply thread titles like, dubstep sucks, fuck scream etc etc.


Im going to offer what i can, for what its worth, (and i fear, very little)

But ive seen and read allmost all of your threads sinse you've been posting here, and i have seen very little positive response aimed at you.
Obviously you know that, but, have you ever wondered why, or just assumed its everyone else who has the problem?

Quit with the underhand tactics at trying to get noticed on here, (assuming you are actually a serious producer of course). Get involved be a little more humble and people will not only give you the constructive crits you're obviously after, but will accept you aswell.

If you think im trying to get on your back, you can go right ahead and tell me how shit my music is, like you seem to do with everyone else who has something negative to say about you.

[c-zar]

i really didn't see any egoism in my thread. of course I put thought in how i would phrase it but hey i am just a brick in the wall. Got to get noticed somehow.

[clemsonheadies]

i really didn't see any egoism in my thread. of course I put thought in how i would phrase it but hey i am just a brick in the wall. Got to get noticed somehow.

oh really?

man these are some quality tracks. quite fronting.

I don't understand why people can't see music for what it is. me and my boy have achieved a sound unlike anyother. see it for that.

Given all the wack shit that people are vibing to now adays I know I have what it takes.

Your "I'm the shit and yall just need to realize it" attitude isn't going to win anybody over, nor is your ignorance. GTFO.

[Echoi]

i really didn't see any egoism in my thread. of course I put thought in how i would phrase it but hey i am just a brick in the wall. Got to get noticed somehow.

Im not saying you've been the ego maniac in this particular thread.

But what you've got to realise is, the vast majority of people on here who you really need on your side giving valuble advice, just dont take you seriously because of your previous form on here.
Thats what it boils down to at the end of the day. Im not going to jump on the bandwagon and slate you, i just think you have completely the wrong idea about how to promote yourself.
Its not about, 'right, how can i shock poeple into checking out my shit'. Just do what everyone else does on here, 'New tune, appreciate some feedback rar rar etc'. If its constructive feedback you want, thats really the best way to get it (and be taken seriously haha)

[c-zar]

i will consider

[Echoi]

Haha, what exactly is it you're considering???

Continuing acting like a douche? Or just trying your hand at some normality

Best of luck with that

[c-zar]

man most of my thread haven't even been that cocky lately but yeah, hoes love a man with a big ego.

[kaiori breathe]

1.) Given all the wack shit that people are vibing to now adays I know I have what it takes.

If you seriously think that then start devoting all your time to production, if pop and r&b are really your thing and a bit part of your style there's nothing wrong with that but you have to learn how they work before trying to implement them in dubstep tunes (this means looking at structure, common chord progressions and melodies, common drum loops used, common samples...etc) and most importantly learn your music theory, or at least some basics to help you put what's in your head down on paper, so to speak.

I would also say a bit of modesty when you're starting out will go a long way as well... Pretty much everyone has said your stuff sucks. Don't tell them they're wrong. That many people are, as a general rule, not wrong. If you can't even get a small microcosm of society to like your stuff then how are you going to win over a larger audience?

Take all the crit on board, especially the bad, only by taking on board the bad and learning from it will you get any better. And if you're really, truly, unhappy with the crit, and you really think it's wrong, put your tunes up somewhere else and see if you get the same reception there - don't give it to your mum, your mum will always love it no matter how shit it is, put it up somewhere else that has the same level of technical knowledge that is found here - and if it gets the same reception then you'll know you definitely have to take it on board.

Also, if you put a tune up claiming it to be great you will get slated instantly. You can be proud of your tune, you can tell people you're proud of it, you can even say it's the best you've ever written, but when you start telling people that they'll like it in advance it comes across as cocky you'll get slated instantly for it.

If you're not a troll then I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors to not suck. If you are a troll then congratz on your winrar effort put forward in this thread.

if i would have asked nicely noone would respond. i know, i've tried it.

You can't just take from a community, you get back what you put in, if you show up out of nowhere slap a tune up and ask for feedback nobody will respond. You need to put the effort in that you want back, you need to take the time to listen to other people's work and leave constructive criticism for them, if that's what they're asking for.

If you do give to the community (no, making one post saying the word "yes" to the question "is this track any good?" does not count as contributing) and you still get no response, then you should take it as a sign... No response, when you contribute, generally means "it's shit" people can't find anything nice to say so they say nothing at all.

[c-zar]

i am not a troll.

first I take music very seriously. People started to say i sucked when I use to say I was the best. Before that I was recieved good criticism but nobody hated on me. I decided to take it to another level to recieve that hate I was looking for. also....


I am proud of this track!
Soundcloud

[egoless]

You can't crack the formula...

You can guess what mass people will like...

but first what you got to do is to achieve the sound, and the most improtant, the groove wich some of your tunes completely lacks of...

If you do this music just to get money, fame, and do the sound not because you love it, but because you know people will fall on it, well, that's your call and I wish you good luck... But you are no artists for me...

cheers