Scorn is fucking sick. Metal & Dub (not dubstep) kind of go hand in hand, both with senses of dread and what not. Its just people can never pull it off.
Justin Broadrick from Godflesh is meant to be producing under the name JKFLESH and is releasing something on the 3x3 label.
Has anybody checked out King Cannibal? His stuff is pretty dark, possibly with a metal influence. Don't know much about his background, but he could be the metal/dubstep sound we're talking about.
King Cannibal is sick. But just as is the case with Vex'd, I often found his releases leaning more towards breakcore than metal. That being said, a lot of breakcore fans do enjoy their metal and vica versa. So it's more of a triple entente rather than a bilateral movement.
joeki wrote:King Cannibal is sick. But just as is the case with Vex'd, I often found his releases leaning more towards breakcore than metal. That being said, a lot of breakcore fans do enjoy their metal and vica versa. So it's more of a triple entente rather than a bilateral movement.
Breakcore could be renamed Metalbreaks for the amount of samples that get spun in to it
Metal and dubstep actually have very similar tempos, both are about 140bpm
november wrote:
beacause not everyone likes distance or vex'd
its called taste, stop trying to be elitist
hahahahahahaha! people who are into "metal" should enjoy distance & vex'd as i do...
I'm not trying to be elitist i'm just pointing out that these artists do that type of sound incredibly well.
They aren't it though, when you are talking about "metal dubstep".
Like I said, I think there is room for someone to come and make a real original sound combining the two genres.
Maybe more towards the metal side, but it's hard enough finding good metal.
and it's hard enough finding really good jump up.
Someone will do it right eventually.
Distance - Menace, is where i'm at with this convo, that tune with metal vox, and some changes and live drums produced to perfection i think is a good template for what i'm talking about.
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Ataria Teenage Riot sampled Nirvana's 'Teen Spirit', that was surprisingly interesting.
I wouldn't mind metal influences as long as it's not basically a DAW-sequenced death metal track with a wobble on it... Needs some space, ambience and atmosphere! I bet Rammstein could have a good go at it
i grew up listening to metal ( like alot of people on this forum) but the thing that made me want to listen to dubstep as my main staple diet of musical needs, as opposed to anything else, was largely due to that fact that dubstep is for the chest....
it was something that you could more than just hear, and think about, you could actually feel it. and up until the first time i went to a dubstep gig (back in 06, with like 35 people in the club) i had not experienced anything like it (even with the ridiculous amount of shows id been to).
pretty much what im saying is, id be more than happy to see a live metal band playing 'dubstep' as long as its replicating the fundamentals of the genre....
and the last thing i wanna see is a metal band just playing 140bpm breakdowns with terrible pig squealing vox's....
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Yeah I mean why insist that one genre tries to do another. Sure get inspiration from what you're into but mashing stuff together seems forced and cheap often and often misses what makes the individual genres great.
I mean I like gabba and jazz but I'm not going to start askin why ornette coleman didn't ever make a an album that sounds like hellfish.
I don't know of any metal bands doing dubstep well, but Venetian Snares did some pretty nice remixes of Black Sabbath tunes, think the release is called Sabbath Dubs. Not sure it's proper to call those dubstep, probably more just dub, but good tunes regardless.
Nevalo wrote:i dunno, this is a tough one for me....
i grew up listening to metal ( like alot of people on this forum) but the thing that made me want to listen to dubstep as my main staple diet of musical needs, as opposed to anything else, was largely due to that fact that dubstep is for the chest....
it was something that you could more than just hear, and think about, you could actually feel it. and up until the first time i went to a dubstep gig (back in 06, with like 35 people in the club) i had not experienced anything like it (even with the ridiculous amount of shows id been to).
pretty much what im saying is, id be more than happy to see a live metal band playing 'dubstep' as long as its replicating the fundamentals of the genre....
and the last thing i wanna see is a metal band just playing 140bpm breakdowns with terrible pig squealing vox's....
somebody mentioned Godflesh. I assume they're one of the few Metal influenced bands that could pull off something worthwhile. They have already done something similar:
more like 155 bpm amen stuff but you get the drift.
While Scorn started out as a Industrial Metal band, I wouldn't call any of their material "Metal" pretty much after it became Mick's solo project (he also doesn't actively play drums anymore since 1996 btw) or the Evanescence album which was pretty much all Trip Hop/Downtempo and Ambient inspired. Some Distance songs have a little so called Metal influence but honestly I wouldn't call songs like V or Menace Dubstep/metal hybrids. Most whatever/Metal hybrids are pure shit anyway, be it the whole Judgement Night garbage or some recent Mallcore bands incorporating electronic elements. Pitch Shifter is another prime example of a great experimental industrial band gone bad. I'd rather listen to something like The Entity, those two records were clearly Death Metal/Dubstep/Breakcore hybrids.
The Blood Of Heroes do a good job as well mixing with more d&b/break inspired music. They have one tune that's 140 BPM's and has machines on the drums. It sounds a bit like dubstep.
Both Remain and the self titled cd's are bare essentials.
again, deffo metal. But clearly 140 bpm drum patterns. The rest of the record has amens and d&b influences as well. RECOMMEND.
