Creating a sick ramp wobble?

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by krispy » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:35 pm

circuitbored wrote:
Basic A wrote:Massive > scrapyard > towards the screechy, midrange side of the wavetable > insert comb filter, turn feedback/dampening up, tune to increase screechy midrange aspect, after the comb, put a lowpass, ramp lfo too cutoff, dimension expander at the end of the signal.

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thanks man. have not tried this yet, but seems promising. are you assigning the lfo to the comb and the lp or just one of them?
who cares man try them both and see which one you like better
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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by melodium747 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:47 pm

krispy wrote:
circuitbored wrote:
Basic A wrote:Massive > scrapyard > towards the screechy, midrange side of the wavetable > insert comb filter, turn feedback/dampening up, tune to increase screechy midrange aspect, after the comb, put a lowpass, ramp lfo too cutoff, dimension expander at the end of the signal.

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thanks man. have not tried this yet, but seems promising. are you assigning the lfo to the comb and the lp or just one of them?
who cares man try them both and see which one you like better
not everyone is going to hold your hand all the time, this is how you figure stuff out
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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by .onelove. » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:26 pm

Do you lot apply the Ramp to a LP Filter or Amp?

Trying to recreate that gated ladder effect you get in a lot of Jakes but I can't get it sounding mechanical enough.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by [asterisk] » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:07 pm

+1 for drawing your cutoff envelopes by hand. It's a bit tedious at first, but once you see how much control you have this way you'll have trouble ever going back to ad-hoc lfo automation again. This is especially good for both rising and falling saw ramps. But I have been disappointed with the lack of automation curves in Ableton so far which makes it near impossible to get a smooth sin like lfo by hand. Crossing my fingers they implement this in 9 cause it's really a big oversight by them IMO which other DAWs have easily included.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by Teknicyde » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:08 pm

.onelove. wrote:Do you lot apply the Ramp to a LP Filter or Amp?

Trying to recreate that gated ladder effect you get in a lot of Jakes but I can't get it sounding mechanical enough.
Try them both.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:32 pm

i think the cookie wobbles are Thor with FM pair oscillator.. try assigning the ramp LFO to the FM amount as well as filter cutoff
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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by .onelove. » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:58 pm

Teknicyde wrote:
.onelove. wrote:Do you lot apply the Ramp to a LP Filter or Amp?

Trying to recreate that gated ladder effect you get in a lot of Jakes but I can't get it sounding mechanical enough.
Try them both.

There ARE NO RULES. stop trying to invent them.
What are you talking about?

If I'm trying to recreate a particular sound of course the technique matters.

I ain't attempting to have a carbon copy, just a general idea of how it's achieved as there are so many artists that have the same effect.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by Trichome » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:21 pm

jrisreal wrote:a ramp DOWN wobble just sounds crappy...any time I've heard it its crappy.

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That does not sound crappy.
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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by hifi » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:23 pm

i was able to recreate some gemini sounding bassline which i'm using in this new track i am working on. if anyone cares to hear it/want it pm me

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by Teknicyde » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:39 pm

.onelove. wrote:
Teknicyde wrote:
.onelove. wrote:Do you lot apply the Ramp to a LP Filter or Amp?

Trying to recreate that gated ladder effect you get in a lot of Jakes but I can't get it sounding mechanical enough.
Try them both.

There ARE NO RULES. stop trying to invent them.
What are you talking about?

If I'm trying to recreate a particular sound of course the technique matters.

I ain't attempting to have a carbon copy, just a general idea of how it's achieved as there are so many artists that have the same effect.
you said 'that one sound in some of jakes songs' :roll:

very particular, that.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by .onelove. » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:01 pm

Why use quotations if you can't use them properly? I said nothing of the sort. I gave a description of the effect and gave an example of where you'd find it. Coki - Tree Trunk is another.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by jrisreal » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:21 pm

Trainrek wrote:
jrisreal wrote:a ramp DOWN wobble just sounds crappy...any time I've heard it its crappy.

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That does not sound crappy.
I stand corrected :O
...in my opinion
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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by Teknicyde » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:17 pm

.onelove. wrote:Why use quotations if you can't use them properly? I said nothing of the sort. I gave a description of the effect and gave an example of where you'd find it. Coki - Tree Trunk is another.
I see no example in your post, and I can use quotes just fine, I just dont like the looks of haivng more then one box per post.

Tree trunk is all sine lfo's, that might be your first problem.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by .onelove. » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:26 am

Teknicyde wrote:
.onelove. wrote:Why use quotations if you can't use them properly? I said nothing of the sort. I gave a description of the effect and gave an example of where you'd find it. Coki - Tree Trunk is another.
I see no example in your post, and I can use quotes just fine, I just dont like the looks of haivng more then one box per post.

Tree trunk is all sine lfo's, that might be your first problem.
I meant misquoting my words, rather than not using the actual quote function.

And really? :corntard:

At 2:00;


Thats definitely a ramp lfo, surely?? Otherwise I'm a complete dunce and would appreciate if you could expand on how it's done, since it's that sort of rung-ladder/engine starting up sound I'm after.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by Teknicyde » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:32 am

Its jsut a really fast sine lfo, controlling a cutoff or volume over a slower lfo on the phase/waveform/something like that.

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Re: Creating a sick ramp wobble?

Post by DrastikMeazures » Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:31 am

I'm not sure I know which sound your after, but if it's a slow drop in pitch try turning up the portamento and playing a quick note( i'm talking 1/16 or even 1/32 of a bar) followed by a longer note lower on the keyboard. Adjust the time of portamento to the length you need.

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