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bass_culture wrote:Just my 2 cents...

I think one of the main problems is with people believing that Dubstep is, or indeed was, a homogeneous "scene", one that is somehow now non-existent, or rather tainted by the commercialisation of the sound. This problem is accentuated further I believe, by certain individuals trying to define themselves by their affiliation to this so-called "scene". It really annoys me when people say things such as, 'I wish it was still 06/07', because this is exactly the kind of attitude which just encourages division and hate within the music, causing it to stagnate. Seriously though, just look at the sheer quality and diversity of releases that are coming out on labels such as Osiris, Tempa, Swamp81, DMZ, Hessle Audio, Wheel and Deal, Black Box... The list goes on. In fact, I would even go as far as saying that this sort of attitude is just as damaging (and apologies for the use of a blatent stereotype here) as when the chainsaw bass bandwagon jumpers (and I'm not talking about everyone who likes this sort of sound here) come out with ignorant shit regarding the deeper stuff. For example, calling it 'boring', or 'slow', and often simply because they lack the appropriate speakers or headphones required in order to understand the quintessential concept of bassweight. Regardless of whether you were "there from the beginning", or indeed only discovered it last week, it is the true heads and music fans that really love this sound that will continue to push it, long after all the hype has worn off, and Dubstep is no longer the flavour of the week. The only way this can be achieved however is through unity and by going forward, not by constantly arguing over mundane topics concerning what constitutes Real Dubstep, and by tragically consigning ourselves forever to this mythical "golden era".

leslie wrote:too much exciting stuff going on at the moment, dont think anybody can complain

-[2]DAY_- wrote:There's definitely amazing music being made, i just wish i'd been hip to earlier sounds too
Mainly because i want to go out to a club and experience lots of deep n dark vibes instead of hyphy madness every time. I can't seem to catch a break with events :\

bass_culture wrote:Just my 2 cents...

I think one of the main problems is with people believing that Dubstep is, or indeed was, a homogeneous "scene", one that is somehow now non-existent, or rather tainted by the commercialisation of the sound. This problem is accentuated further I believe, by certain individuals trying to define themselves by their affiliation to this so-called "scene". It really annoys me when people say things such as, 'I wish it was still 06/07', because this is exactly the kind of attitude which just encourages division and hate within the music, causing it to stagnate. Seriously though, just look at the sheer quality and diversity of releases that are coming out on labels such as Osiris, Tempa, Swamp81, DMZ, Hessle Audio, Wheel and Deal, Black Box... The list goes on. In fact, I would even go as far as saying that this sort of attitude is just as damaging (and apologies for the use of a blatent stereotype here) as when the chainsaw bass bandwagon jumpers (and I'm not talking about everyone who likes this sort of sound here) come out with ignorant shit regarding the deeper stuff. For example, calling it 'boring', or 'slow', and often simply because they lack the appropriate speakers or headphones required in order to understand the quintessential concept of bassweight. Regardless of whether you were "there from the beginning", or indeed only discovered it last week, it is the true heads and music fans that really love this sound that will continue to push it, long after all the hype has worn off, and Dubstep is no longer the flavour of the week. The only way this can be achieved however is through unity and by going forward, not by constantly arguing over mundane topics concerning what constitutes Real Dubstep, and by tragically consigning ourselves forever to this mythical "golden era".

wub wrote:Underground scene > Loyal following > Starts to grow > mainstream crossover > loyalists get pissed off > sub scenes start > underground scene



Rinse & repeat.

UKdubKingdom wrote:^^^ yeah thats a good way to put it wub

Sheff wrote:

-[2]DAY_- wrote:There's definitely amazing music being made, i just wish i'd been hip to earlier sounds too
Mainly because i want to go out to a club and experience lots of deep n dark vibes instead of hyphy madness every time. I can't seem to catch a break with events :\

yeah i know what you're saying

johnboy01 wrote:WHAT ABOUT A DUBSTEP EVENT THAT'S TAKES PLACE IN A MORE LOUNGY ENVIRONMENT? more comfy seats and tables than dance floor, but with all the big sound and proper acoustics and you can smoke as much as you want with your mates and have some beers and just vibe out all night. there could be dance floor, but have it quite small and closely surrounded by the tables and chairs (people will inevitably want to dance). more intimate and music oriented, you know? and have a relatively small number of people? personally that environment with someone spinning some medi style beats sounds like heaven to me. all the sound, all the focus and no elbows to the face. am i crazy?

StrangeFlow wrote:

wub wrote:Underground scene > Loyal following > Starts to grow > mainstream crossover > loyalists get pissed off > sub scenes start > underground scene



Rinse & repeat.

found this quite interesting, btw.