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Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:41 am
by profound
I frankly don't give a fuck what bpm the tune is, i just start beatmatching and hopefully i'll get them on the same bpm.
Which is how it should be done imo.....
If all your tunes are at the same bpm, you're not really djing, you're just throwing in tunes.

The only thing i try to avoid is a 10" at 33rpm, that's just :u:

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:35 am
by DFRNT
wait... dubstep is 140?

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:42 am
by soulkids
profound wrote: If all your tunes are at the same bpm, you're not really djing, you're just throwing in tunes.
most of yunx tunes are 140 (+ - 2 or 3), so he aint djin?

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:12 am
by wilson
soulkids wrote:
profound wrote: If all your tunes are at the same bpm, you're not really djing, you're just throwing in tunes.
most of yunx tunes are 140 (+ - 2 or 3), so he aint djin?
Exactly. Fucking hell, think before you type people.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:26 am
by wub
Any DJ of any genre who starts and ends their set in exactly the same place with no fluctuation in pace, tempo, freneticism or speed is boring IMO, and one step away from being replaced by a software algorithm.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:37 pm
by profound
wilson wrote:
soulkids wrote:
profound wrote: If all your tunes are at the same bpm, you're not really djing, you're just throwing in tunes.
most of yunx tunes are 140 (+ - 2 or 3), so he aint djin?
Exactly. Fucking hell, think before you type people.
70% of my time when i'm djing, i'm beatmatching, if your not beatmatching, then wtf are u doing ?!
Am i really the only one who thinks beatmatching is one of the most important skills a dj has?

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:45 pm
by fractal
wilson wrote:
ghandi wrote:
fractal wrote:any mix at one solid tempo is dull imo
Why? There's more important things that determine a good DJ set than variation in tempo to be honest.
i'm speaking as a dancer... maybe it's because i sense the tempo more than your average punter, but dancing to the same tempo all night just bores the hell out of me. That's why dancing to hip hop is always fun, different tempos and all that (imho)


...and yunx plays all sorts of stuff. last time i listened it went from dubstep to dnb :W:

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:24 pm
by herbalicious
DFRNT wrote:wait... dubstep is 140?
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Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:00 pm
by _cheef_
meh, it depends...sometimes it's great to play a set in the same tempo, but other times it's nice to change it up...all depends on the mood.

Last time I played out, started the set out with some dubstep to snag those fuckers in, then killed that shit halfway through and switched to dnb and the place went OFF...good times, good times.... :Q: :4:

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:34 pm
by horsefeather
i would start with lower bpm and then go higher, it always get me in the mood if djs do that

and dubstep isn't always 140 BPM

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:29 pm
by slothrop
wub wrote:Any DJ of any genre who starts and ends their set in exactly the same place with no fluctuation in pace, tempo, freneticism or speed is boring IMO, and one step away from being replaced by a software algorithm.
Yeah, but pretty much any genre worth listening to has a good range of variation within it and I've seen a lot of DJs who hacve got the depth and selection to vary the pace / vibe / rhythm / energy level / "take the audience on a journey" / whatever while playing the same basic genre at the same tempo all night. If you think that DJs need to switch the actual tempo up and down, play a bit of dubstep, a bit of house, a bit of hip hop, a bit of jungle and a bit of breton shawm music to 'stop it getting boring' then you've been watchin shit DJs tbh.

I'm not trying to enforce some kind of rigid genre segregation here, some people can mix it up really well and basically if you're the DJ you can do what the hell you like, I just find it a bit weird that when dubstep in itself spans from almost-reggae to almost-garage to almost-techno to almost-metal to almost-ambient to almost-grime to almost-pop, people can't imagine a varied DJ set of just dubstep...

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:41 pm
by skitz_0
fractal wrote: ...and yunx plays all sorts of stuff. last time i listened it went from dubstep to dnb :W:
see, the thing with that is that majority of his radio sets are maybe an hour and a half of solid dubstep, then half hour of solid dnb, it's not as if he's mixing one into another, one tune is probably brought down and the next one is edge rolled. the tempos of the two mixes are never too far from the 140/170 benchmarks.

you won't hear me complaining either way. a dj can do whatever they want, honestly, as long as it sounds good; if that means switching up styles throughout the mix or not, they're the selector for the moment and everyone respects a job well done.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:16 pm
by StimpsonJay
the wiggle baron wrote:Nah strictly 140. I wont even drop disco rekkah...
arg so true!!! just ever so slightly too fast!
why Loefah whyyyyy haha
oh also yeah pssh I don't buy any DNB vinyl. Pretty specific when it comes to buying records (Funk/soul, Hip hop old and new and dubstep)
DNB is great when your out but can't be arsed to play sets.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:12 am
by budsteq
StimpsonJay wrote:
the wiggle baron wrote:Nah strictly 140. I wont even drop disco rekkah...
arg so true!!! just ever so slightly too fast!
why Loefah whyyyyy haha
oh also yeah pssh I don't buy any DNB vinyl. Pretty specific when it comes to buying records (Funk/soul, Hip hop old and new and dubstep)
DNB is great when your out but can't be arsed to play sets.
that's the spirit

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:27 am
by wub
slothrop wrote:If you think that DJs need to switch the actual tempo up and down, play a bit of dubstep, a bit of house, a bit of hip hop, a bit of jungle and a bit of breton shawm music to 'stop it getting boring' then you've been watchin shit DJs tbh.
Didn't put it too eloquently first time round tbh, my bad. Basically, without dissappearing down the whole "DJ set as journey" wank statement, I need to feel like I'm not just listening to the same song for 90mins or whatever. Similarly, I don't want a jack-of-all-trades set where there will be snippets from every sub genre and beyond being thrown into the proceedings.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:52 am
by Montgomery Burns
I'm not trying to enforce some kind of rigid genre segregation here, some people can mix it up really well and basically if you're the DJ you can do what the hell you like, I just find it a bit weird that when dubstep in itself spans from almost-reggae to almost-garage to almost-techno to almost-metal to almost-ambient to almost-grime to almost-pop, people can't imagine a varied DJ set of just dubstep...
+1

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:20 am
by slothrop
wub wrote: Didn't put it too eloquently first time round tbh, my bad. Basically, without dissappearing down the whole "DJ set as journey" wank statement, I need to feel like I'm not just listening to the same song for 90mins or whatever.
Yeah, that's true, but I don't think that's got much to do with genre or tempo. Come to that, I've heard amazing sets that have basically been a really good DJ who's focussed on a quite narrow style and understands their tunes well enough to make something that flows and develops and pulls you along with it using really quite subtle shifts of mode and atmosphere. Equinox does this with minimal amen + sub jungle tunes and it's incredible.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:41 pm
by ghandi
Bunzero keeps it varied on his F.O.B shows, the bpm doesn't stray too far from 140 but he juggles half step with 808s and 4/4 rhythms.

My mind tends to wander in the second hour of a podcast if the style doesn't change, I appreciate Yunx switching it up these days in the last 30 mins.

Re: Should a dubstep DJ Set stay at the same tempo?

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:57 pm
by JLA
Something I like a lot about dubstep is you can pretty much incorporate any sort of tactic into the formula and make it sound badass--but only if you can pull it off, shit's tricky.

I definitely don't think it SHOULD stay the same, it pretty much just all comes down to how it turns out. There are for sure some good examples, such as this one mix (don't remember off the top of my head) that used the whalestep track by excision and played it off wonderfully.

I suppose that is all just a long way of saying ''should it? only if it sounds better that way.''