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Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:30 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
surprisingly, a total of ZERO posts in this particular thread have anything to do with "cack vs bass" or anything remotely resembling that dead horse of an argument.
Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:46 pm
by Basic A
shlazzer wrote:Basic A wrote:
Yes, it is. My friends and I maintain a blog and post only exclusive content/interviews/mixes/free320's, and on the rare occasion I do post something that isnt exclusive to us, I am posting preview clips and reviews of tracks sent in directly from the labels who are publishing them. Granted this keeps us from posting as often as we could if we were simply reposting popular material, however, its the price you pay to offer your readers new, interesting, material which will keep them checking back for more.
If you want to start a blog great. Dont make it reposts of the most popular videos on youtube this week. That makes no sense, your not informing anyone, your repositng what is already highly popular.
This isnt about midrange/filth vs. sub-heavy/deep... I thoroughly love both sides of the fence. They are pointing out that your blog has nothing to offer that they couldnt get typing 'dubstep' into youtube.
I appreciate the actual constructive nature of what you said. I'm certainly not just posting the most popular video of the week.
The real drive behind the blog is related to my initial experiences with dubstep; I didn't know who to search for, I didn't know what good tracks were, I didn't know much of anything.
My goal is to introduce tracks that I enjoy, in an attempt to expose visitors to popular artists, and newer material. I am constantly developing my personal means of being ahead of the curve, so that the material is always (if possible) new, and engaging.
I hope that, with time, the utility of my idea will grow. I understand that right now, it is pretty stupid to go to a website that has like, 14 random songs. With more content comes organization, and with organization comes clarity; it is definitely a work in progress.
Fortunately, I think my audience is less in tune with the dubstep scene than the community here. Clearly my site is far too behind the times for you guys LOL.
It might not be cack vs bass to you, but most of the other posts in this thread certainly are
If you all are already familiar with the music that I have posted, then don't listen to it! Recognize that there are still a LOT of people out there that don't know who Skrillex is, love him or hate him. If I can show 6 people 3 specific artists to follow on youtube/twitter/facebook/google/life/interweb, then I have accomplished my goal.
MCwillywarmer wrote:your website is shit, the tunes on it are shit and you seem like a complete tnuc from what you posted back.
fuck off and hang your self you subhuman.
Do you have any support for what you said? Or do you just like dishing out insults, and then suggesting suicide? I can only imagine the kind of person you are IRL
But, I wasnt critiquing your lack of organization or lack of content, I was telling you you need exclusive material or you ARE just reposting youtube vids, no matter what creative text spin you put behind it.
Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:19 pm
by shlazzer
at some point, you do need to repost popular content in order to consolidate all of that content into one page, no?
(btw, every single post in here that says 'your music sucks' or anyone posting a giant robot with his hand on his face or anyone posting about 'rusko - dub god' etc are all bitching about mid range cack. reading comprehension ITT)
Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:40 pm
by Basic A
shlazzer wrote:at some point, you do need to repost popular content in order to consolidate all of that content into one page, no?
(btw, every single post in here that says 'your music sucks' or anyone posting a giant robot with his hand on his face or anyone posting about 'rusko - dub god' etc are all bitching about mid range cack. reading comprehension ITT)
I can see why they are offended by the dub god thing... because Rusko doesnt make 'dub' he makes 'dubstep' ... and there is a huge difference, one is an organic music genre from the late 80's and early 90's and one is a modern form of electronic dance music. Itd be like calling Limp Bizkit classic rock, when they are a modern band taking a very slight amount of influence from classic rock. Get why they are bitching about it now? Not because of Rusko's midrangedness or nonmidrangedness, but because of your SEVERE misuse of a term...
But... why does all the most popular content need reduced to one page? Its popular for a reason, lots of people know about it already. Your trying to tap the 'we dont google anything market' which makes no sense to me.
Wouldnt it make more sense to promote music which you enjoy but is underrated and under appreciated rather then music you enjoy that is incredibly popular? By doing so you would 'educate' and 'turn on' more people.
Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:03 pm
by shlazzer
I definitely understand the whole dub god issue. I apologize for the oversight, i didnt realize one couldnt refer to a dubstep producer as a 'dub god' (even though i think most of the flak this topic was throwing my way in regards to that issue was NOT a genre mix up, as you explained
). I have since made amends. Thank you for breaking it down. I had perhaps taken an initially defensive stance, due to all of the hatred of N american sounds. not saying you ALL hate it.. but that ones that do post a lot.
im not necessarily trying to tap the WDGA market, but perhaps a WDGA-for-a-reason market. A lot of people wont take the time to research dubstep simply because they dont know where to start. Give them a couple popular artists, and let them run wild.
does it NOT make sense to post popular tracks from a genre on a blog dedicated to that genre? I agree with the promotion of under appreciated/not as well known music, but you still have to include the staples. Im sure to take a good bit out of my day to scan the newest uploads to a few sites, provide listener feedback, and incorporate anything worth posting into the blog. off the top of my head, Ephixa's Lost Woods remix isnt that well known IMO (definitely in my area at least), and it is definitely on the blog.
I think that with time, you will find a larger diversity of music on the site, both mainstream (lol) and under the radar. I am definitely not intent on reposting every popular video. The goal IS to become a medium to discover new artists and new mixes, as well as appreciate the more popular tracks.
Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:17 pm
by horsefeather
if you want to introduce dubstep to people you have to post the roots of dubstep on your site.
i can't call anyone a dubstep fan if he or she don't respect the roots of it.
Re: Sharing
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:21 pm
by wub
shlazzer wrote:does it NOT make sense to post popular tracks from a genre on a blog dedicated to that genre?
It does, yes. And herein lies the problem - you're not the first person to do this, and as such your blog is adding no value. Try Googling 'dubstep blog' and clicking on the first link. It's not your site, but is nearly identical in content.
Again, try clicking the rest of the Google search returns for 'dubstep blog'. Identikit blogs with similar (if not identical) YouTunes (deliberate typo in case anyone was wondering).
The issue is not with the tracks you have selected; indeed all genres have their different extremes of interpretation and one is no more valid than any other. But your blog is nothing that hasn't been down before on multiple occasions. Without any unique content all you are doing is recreating something that already exists, and as is demonstrated by the aforementioned Google search test, you're not even appearing at the top of any lists when people are looking for something.