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Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:01 pm
by badger
south3rn wrote:decided on an Ecler when i found out the A&H are made in china now, and lots of people are having humming/hissing issues.
if you don't need effects, i'd strongly recommend the ecler. i've never had a mixer sound this amazing. the knobs are huge and super ergonomic and the eqs act as complete kills. it's kinda pricey for even the basic 2 channel but an amazing piece of equipment for sure.
absolutely love mine. great little mixer and lovely build quality. cannot go wrong with massive nobs either (ooh err

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shaan wrote:knobs take two hands to twist.
wtf? are you three years old or something? if that's the case i'll let you off for being utterly wrong in insulting ecler

the faders have lots of different settings so i'd imagine you had them set up wrong if you had problems
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:24 pm
by Sheff
seen an ecler nuo 5 for under 400 and i fucking want it
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:27 pm
by deamonds
the effects on a djm800 are proper decent for mixing with, love using the filters aswell
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:34 pm
by solo strike
Just picked up a virtually brand new DJM600 for £270. Loving it, really nice mixer. I actually prefer it to the A&H that I've used
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:35 pm
by Sheff
yeah thats what im excited about...filters
not sure if id really use that many other effects...not that i can think of from the top of my head anyway..
hatchas set at east village was annoying with that beat chopper/multiplier thing (i obv dont know the name of it) he definately went overboard with that
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:33 pm
by gwa
deamonds wrote:the effects on a djm800 are proper decent for mixing with, love using the filters aswell
pioneer efx1000 are fucking awesome, i just find that you don't get much control over the parameters with the efx on the 800/700/600
especially with the filters, i know i might as well be a a&h sales rep but the filter on the pioneer does simply not compare to the analogue manual filter of an a&h. it's set in stone where as i can have a low pass on a track being brought in over a breakdown and gradually snap it back in on the drop and cause more empthasis on the mix, rather than have it automatically filtering for you.
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:35 pm
by gwa
i'd get an ecler evo5 if there wasn't the DB4 on offer
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:55 pm
by noam
gwa wrote:deamonds wrote:the effects on a djm800 are proper decent for mixing with, love using the filters aswell
pioneer efx1000 are fucking awesome, i just find that you don't get much control over the parameters with the efx on the 800/700/600
especially with the filters, i know i might as well be a a&h sales rep but the filter on the pioneer does simply not compare to the analogue manual filter of an a&h. it's set in stone where as i can have a low pass on a track being brought in over a breakdown and gradually snap it back in on the drop and cause more empthasis on the mix, rather than have it automatically filtering for you.
do the pioneers not have a manual filter??
i know f all about mixers btw, if used a djm 800 a few times and never went near the effects, suppose mixin more housey stuff there's a bit of room for fx
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:07 am
by Dub_freak
Sheff wrote:
hatchas set at east village was annoying with that beat chopper/multiplier thing (i obv dont know the name of it) he definately went overboard with that
I skipped his set because of that

Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:26 am
by pompende
noam wrote:do the pioneers not have a manual filter??
i know f all about mixers btw, if used a djm 800 a few times and never went near the effects, suppose mixin more housey stuff there's a bit of room for fx
idk either to be honest. i never touch the fx panel on the djm because its a confusing mess to me.
the filter on Xone mixers on the other hand... so easy!
http://www.powerhousehire.co.uk/cms/upl ... _front.jpg
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http://www.ocie.com/images_products/pio ... _b8386.jpg
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:44 am
by noam
no fucking way if you're in a club you're gona hve time to switch between all them fx, select channels, set ratio's and trigger fx properly on that pioneer... why all the crap??
there's obviously a lot of options but doesn't look easy to use you're right
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:44 am
by shaan
not three - 22. :p i just like smaller eqs - can flick them about.
and gwa i meant mixing in headphones - on the 62 you can only have one cued at a time.
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:21 am
by deamonds
no, on a djm 800, you select filter on the second fx channel. You then twist each channels knob right for a high pass, left for a low pass.
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:23 am
by deamonds
shaan wrote:on the 62 you can only have one cued at a time.
and yea, wtf is up with this? I've tried fucking around with the cue on nearly every setting, I KNOW there is one button that makes it work, i can never find it apart from this one time that I did. Enlightenment please, I don't use it on every mix, but there will be like 2 seconds i want to use it on 1 in 4 mixes maybe
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:57 pm
by solo strike
deamonds wrote:no, on a djm 800, you select filter on the second fx channel. You then twist each channels knob right for a high pass, left for a low pass.
Major upgrade on the 800, it's annoying not having it manual on the 600 tbh
Effects are fairly easy to use and select on Pioneer mixers though, you only really need about 3 of them anyway, the rest are kind of useless in my opinion
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:01 pm
by gwa
my bad i forgot about the colour pot.. excuse me..
the 62s a fuckery ancient mixer ill give you that. i did fuck up on a gig when playing out on it fir the first time due to that. the rest are find though
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:06 pm
by noam
deamonds wrote:shaan wrote:on the 62 you can only have one cued at a time.
and yea, wtf is up with this? I've tried fucking around with the cue on nearly every setting, I KNOW there is one button that makes it work, i can never find it apart from this one time that I did. Enlightenment please, I don't use it on every mix, but there will be like 2 seconds i want to use it on 1 in 4 mixes maybe
do you mean if you're doin three deck mixes you cant have all 3 running through the headphones at the same time??
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:06 pm
by gwa
the x/y pad on the djm900 looks interesting...
still the DB4 looks the shit, cannot wait to get it
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:03 pm
by deamonds
noam wrote:deamonds wrote:shaan wrote:on the 62 you can only have one cued at a time.
and yea, wtf is up with this? I've tried fucking around with the cue on nearly every setting, I KNOW there is one button that makes it work, i can never find it apart from this one time that I did. Enlightenment please, I don't use it on every mix, but there will be like 2 seconds i want to use it on 1 in 4 mixes maybe
do you mean if you're doin three deck mixes you cant have all 3 running through the headphones at the same time??
well apparently not, not even two? gwa?
edit* i swear i got it to after fucking around with it enough, perhaps it was a newer model
Re: Pioneer Mixers
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:38 pm
by Ennayess
hmm, i've definitely cued 2 tracks at the same time on a 62. maybe the split button. dunno it just worked when i used one