Is really just saying one or all of the following:
"I destroyed my laptop because I didn't take care of it, I didn't use a firewall or do regular virus scans/ I downloaded garbage from unreliable websites/ Honestly, I treated it like it was just a magic box with no bottom to be filled with disturbing pornography I found on 4chan"
Sorry for the rampant generalization but in most cases it's the truth, laptops and PCs are, for the most part, as reliable as you are.
Don't blame your gear when it stops working because you load it up with jizz and cheatos.
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:38 am
by gen_
In all seriousness....
Buying a laptop for 650 quid gives you about 2 years before it's out of date. Providing nothing else goes wrong you'll need a new battery in 3 years time so it's the least futureproof thing you will own... unless you have a Mac or worse, an iPod that isn't the classic.
Get a desktop PC 650 will buy you a beast that will still be up with the Joneses in 3 years time and will cost you 100 quid to keep nippy food the next 6-7 years.
If you haven't got specific reasons to need a laptop then don't fall prey to the 'I need it but I don't know why'. Its the look, and it's the same thing that makes a Mac fanboy such an annoying twat.
And just for the record, my main machine is a Mac. But I ran hack way before and my 3 year old £500 PC would eat my £1000 2010 iMac alive.
Macbook or a Windows Laptop that runs Intel(2.2ghz at least) with 4 gig RAM. I can't help much because I don't have the same currency as you. What is your budget in US dollar?
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:45 am
by BevOh
Dont go near a Mac. Read my post in the link i gave above.
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:18 am
by Karoshi
gen_ wrote:In all seriousness....
Buying a laptop for 650 quid gives you about 2 years before it's out of date. Providing nothing else goes wrong you'll need a new battery in 3 years time so it's the least futureproof thing you will own... unless you have a Mac or worse, an iPod that isn't the classic.
Get a desktop PC 650 will buy you a beast that will still be up with the Joneses in 3 years time and will cost you 100 quid to keep nippy food the next 6-7 years.
If you haven't got specific reasons to need a laptop then don't fall prey to the 'I need it but I don't know why'. Its the look, and it's the same thing that makes a Mac fanboy such an annoying twat.
And just for the record, my main machine is a Mac. But I ran hack way before and my 3 year old £500 PC would eat my £1000 2010 iMac alive.
This is true, but i have a good desktop for music production but i live away from home through the week, so i need a (newer/better than i already have) Laptop
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:21 pm
by bassinine
kaiori breathe wrote:Anybody who says the following:
"'X/Y' laptop/PC is unreliable."
Is really just saying one or all of the following:
"I destroyed my laptop because I didn't take care of it, I didn't use a firewall or do regular virus scans/ I downloaded garbage from unreliable websites/ Honestly, I treated it like it was just a magic box with no bottom to be filled with disturbing pornography I found on 4chan"
Sorry for the rampant generalization but in most cases it's the truth, laptops and PCs are, for the most part, as reliable as you are.
Don't blame your gear when it stops working because you load it up with jizz and cheatos.
on my acer: battery died after less than a year, when it had only been used off the wall charger about ~3 times. i used my desktop to download everything, that didn't stop the motherboard from dying after 1.5 years. regular crashes, probably due to faulty visual memory, were frequent during the short time that it actually did work.
i have talked to 2 people personally that had this same experience with acer. i think that's the definition of a brand being unreliable: you know, having a higher percentage of faulty products than other companies.
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:06 pm
by Lichee
BevOh wrote:Dont go near a Mac. Read my post in the link i gave above.
i'm not gonna waste my time reading whatever crap you have put up but i can 100% guarantee you have no sound argument other than some loose opinion and the "you can get the same parts for much cheaper" bla bla. Houses are cheaper in Istanbul than London, let us all move to Istanbul, they all have bricks and toilets and windows, just the bricks and toilets and windows cost less, therefore a logical decision. But you would rather live in London you say? Why, because it is your choice and your money, just as millions of people (many of whom I must point out are more intelligible than you) would rather have a mac than a windows laptop. The mac-windows argument is redundant and is purely a matter of preference.
@OP, I have a mac, i got it from America and dodged vat so ended up spending just over £700 on a 2011 i5 macbook pro which is 1k from the uk, compared with my £600 desktop pc which went up the shitter pretty quick, as has my mums dell laptop. Also, getting a mac from ebay is a good idea IF you can get one within the one year warranty in which you can have the warranty switched to your name and you then extend it to the 3 year warranty giving you over 2 years international protection, which makes sense and is cheap.
Any mac windows replies fuck you
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:08 pm
by VirtualMark
Lichee wrote:compared with my £600 desktop pc which went up the shitter pretty quick, as has my mums dell laptop.
this made me laugh, pc's don't just "go up the shitter", lots of people have had good/bad experiences with both pc and mac. i've never had one pc break on my, as i know how to look after it.
once a year i take my laptop apart and remove the layer of dust that builds up over the heat sinks/fans/vents over this time(theres a guide on the dell site on how to take it apart). my current laptop was bought in 2008, dell vostro 1500, core2duo 2.5ghz(penryn), 4gb ram, geforce 8600m gt, 320gb hdd. i paid £700 back then, i'd say thats a good deal for 3 years constant(and i mean constant) usage. i leave it switched on overnight regularly, i download tons of stuff, take it everywhere i stay, watch movies, play games make music etc. its so stable that sometimes i don't have to reboot or switch off for a month.
i anticipate that my hdd will be the first thing to fail, i'm just hoping this laptop lasts until the ivy bridge chips come out next year. plus its not really worth me upgrading yet, this laptop does everything i need!
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:17 pm
by Lichee
VirtualMark wrote:
Lichee wrote:compared with my £600 desktop pc which went up the shitter pretty quick, as has my mums dell laptop.
this made me laugh, pc's don't just "go up the shitter", lots of people have had good/bad experiences with both pc and mac. i've never had one pc break on my, as i know how to look after it.
once a year i take my laptop apart and remove the layer of dust that builds up over the heat sinks/fans/vents over this time(theres a guide on the dell site on how to take it apart). my current laptop was bought in 2008, dell vostro 1500, core2duo 2.5ghz(penryn), 4gb ram, geforce 8600m gt, 320gb hdd. i paid £700 back then, i'd say thats a good deal for 3 years constant(and i mean constant) usage. i leave it switched on overnight regularly, i download tons of stuff, take it everywhere i stay, watch movies, play games make music etc. its so stable that sometimes i don't have to reboot or switch off for a month.
i anticipate that my hdd will be the first thing to fail, i'm just hoping this laptop lasts until the ivy bridge chips come out next year. plus its not really worth me upgrading yet, this laptop does everything i need!
my entire point there is that people use the fact that macs break against macs. Of course it's not microsoft's fault my comp broke, i built it myself with dodgy prts, cracked windows and anti virus etc so it was bound to go wrong lol. My point is you just cannot say one is better than the other, in my experience mac is much better, clearly in yours thats not the case.
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:23 pm
by kaiori breathe
bassinine wrote:
kaiori breathe wrote:Anybody who says the following:
"'X/Y' laptop/PC is unreliable."
Is really just saying one or all of the following:
"I destroyed my laptop because I didn't take care of it, I didn't use a firewall or do regular virus scans/ I downloaded garbage from unreliable websites/ Honestly, I treated it like it was just a magic box with no bottom to be filled with disturbing pornography I found on 4chan"
Sorry for the rampant generalization but in most cases it's the truth, laptops and PCs are, for the most part, as reliable as you are.
Don't blame your gear when it stops working because you load it up with jizz and cheatos.
on my acer: battery died after less than a year, when it had only been used off the wall charger about ~3 times. i used my desktop to download everything, that didn't stop the motherboard from dying after 1.5 years. regular crashes, probably due to faulty visual memory, were frequent during the short time that it actually did work.
i have talked to 2 people personally that had this same experience with acer. i think that's the definition of a brand being unreliable: you know, having a higher percentage of faulty products than other companies.
Two words...
Jizz... Cheatos
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:23 pm
by bassinine
you know, despite talking out of your ass to someone speaking from experience... you might be on to something.
that might be why all the keys fell off.
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:17 am
by brettheaslewood
everything can break.
get over it.
I've had Windows 7 Acer Laptop and Macbook Snow Leopard Black issue, and the both have broken.
there is no better choice in what OS you decide to use, just preference.
Personally i wouldn't get a laptop, get a Desktop - if you wanna make music on it, it'll take you further!
I've gone back to an XP Desktop now with no connections to the web to save myself from getting dirty XP attacking virus's, sucha a charmer!
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:36 am
by gen_
brettheaslewood wrote:everything can break.
get over it.
I've had Windows 7 Acer Laptop and Macbook Snow Leopard Black issue, and the both have broken.
there is no better choice in what OS you decide to use, just preference.
Personally i wouldn't get a laptop, get a Desktop - if you wanna make music on it, it'll take you further!
I've gone back to an XP Desktop now with no connections to the web to save myself from getting dirty XP attacking virus's, sucha a charmer!
I will answer your post with someone else post....
kaiori breathe wrote:
Two words...
Jizz... Cheatos
EDIT: Boss Level FTW!!!
Re: PC Laptop for music production?
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:09 pm
by Siderealdb
gen_ wrote:
brettheaslewood wrote:everything can break.
get over it.
I've had Windows 7 Acer Laptop and Macbook Snow Leopard Black issue, and the both have broken.
there is no better choice in what OS you decide to use, just preference.
Personally i wouldn't get a laptop, get a Desktop - if you wanna make music on it, it'll take you further!
I've gone back to an XP Desktop now with no connections to the web to save myself from getting dirty XP attacking virus's, sucha a charmer!
I will answer your post with someone else post....