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What a joke.

kaiten wrote:What a joke.

How so? I think it's a good thing. I'm excited to see what they come out with.

Art is an evolving being. It doesn't stay one way or another and it always incorporates elements from other art!

-T

Toric wrote:

kaiten wrote:What a joke.

How so? I think it's a good thing. I'm excited to see what they come out with.

Art is an evolving being. It doesn't stay one way or another and it always incorporates elements from other art!

-T

How would it not be a joke?

They certainly didn't hit up Mala to find out why the subtle elements in his tunes work so well together.

kaiten wrote:

Toric wrote:

kaiten wrote:What a joke.

How so? I think it's a good thing. I'm excited to see what they come out with.

Art is an evolving being. It doesn't stay one way or another and it always incorporates elements from other art!

-T

How would it not be a joke?

They certainly didn't hit up Mala to find out why the subtle elements in his tunes work so well together.

You're their Manager then? They told you to not contact Mala?

Or could it be that Mala decided not to do the album because he didn't like the deal.

It seems they have a lot of younger artists on the Album. Artists that need the exposure, and don't care if they get a sub par deal out of it.

I'm not saying Korn is giving sub par deals, but it is all business these days and it might not be up to Mala's standards.

Skrillex fits perfectly in this album, and I love that he did it.

Didn't mean to be rude, but you're calling the album a joke and you've heard one song.

Ever listen to My Chemical Romance? Yea, most of their albums are not my style, since I come from a metal background, but their songs are great by music theory standards. Have you heard the album "The Black Parade" by them?



That song kicks ass, doesn't sound anything like you would expect from them, and it's all because they started working with Rob Cavallo. He did their next album as well, and I hear it's pretty awesome.

You never know what's going to happen when two artists come together to make something different.

Megadeth did this with Risk, and Dann Huff, who was a country producer, and I love that album.

Better yet, their best album was when Marty Friedman joined and Mustain was off Alcohol. I'm sure everyone said the album was going to be stupid when he hired someone from an underground band and had just quit drinking.

Wait for the whole album to come out, listen to it a few times (or don't) and then if you think it's stupid, give your opinion. It's just ignorant to cast an opinion based off one song.

Chemical Romance, never thought I'd see the day when this is posted on dsf :s that's actually pretty sad..

no doubt... that's gross!

Toric wrote:

kaiten wrote:

Toric wrote:

kaiten wrote:What a joke.

How so? I think it's a good thing. I'm excited to see what they come out with.

Art is an evolving being. It doesn't stay one way or another and it always incorporates elements from other art!

-T

How would it not be a joke?

They certainly didn't hit up Mala to find out why the subtle elements in his tunes work so well together.

You're their Manager then? They told you to not contact Mala?

Or could it be that Mala decided not to do the album because he didn't like the deal.

It seems they have a lot of younger artists on the Album. Artists that need the exposure, and don't care if they get a sub par deal out of it.

I'm not saying Korn is giving sub par deals, but it is all business these days and it might not be up to Mala's standards.

Skrillex fits perfectly in this album, and I love that he did it.

Didn't mean to be rude, but you're calling the album a joke and you've heard one song.

Ever listen to My Chemical Romance? Yea, most of their albums are not my style, since I come from a metal background, but their songs are great by music theory standards. Have you heard the album "The Black Parade" by them?



That song kicks ass, doesn't sound anything like you would expect from them, and it's all because they started working with Rob Cavallo. He did their next album as well, and I hear it's pretty awesome.

You never know what's going to happen when two artists come together to make something different.

Megadeth did this with Risk, and Dann Huff, who was a country producer, and I love that album.

Better yet, their best album was when Marty Friedman joined and Mustain was off Alcohol. I'm sure everyone said the album was going to be stupid when he hired someone from an underground band and had just quit drinking.

Wait for the whole album to come out, listen to it a few times (or don't) and then if you think it's stupid, give your opinion. It's just ignorant to cast an opinion based off one song.

Not really, that song + the list of collaborative artists lets me know that its an over the hill rock band's attempt to jump on the brostep bandwagon. If that isn't obvious to you then you really don't know that much about Dubstep.

Toric wrote:but their songs are great by music theory standards.

lol what the fuck does that mean?? I mean i study theory and love it, but what are u saying, that MCR is "theoretically a good band?"
heheheheh..

Like i said i do study music and play/read, but in these scenes its not about theory, its about vibe.


Korn are old and in the way. Massive is the new electric guitar, bitcrusher is the new Marshall half stack. they tryna rekindle their knack for angsty youngster music to resurrect their cash flow. If I were still 15 and it wasn't too popular (lol), who knows.. i might've been repping this nonsense

-[2]DAY_- wrote:

Toric wrote:but their songs are great by music theory standards.

lol what the fuck does that mean?? I mean i study theory and love it, but what are u saying, that MCR is "theoretically a good band?"
heheheheh..

Like i said i do study music and play/read, but in these scenes its not about theory, its about vibe.


Korn are old and in the way. Massive is the new electric guitar, bitcrusher is the new Marshall half stack. they tryna rekindle their knack for angsty youngster music to resurrect their cash flow. If I were still 15 and it wasn't too popular (lol), who knows.. i might've been repping this nonsense

I studied theory for a compositional degree on Piano. A lot of what I learned, and most of it not even from my teachers, is what chord progressions give what feel to certain pop/rock/metal/electronic music songs.

What are you studying theory for? Just curious as one musician studying music to another.

Yes, I am saying that MCR is theoretically a good band. I'm also saying they are talented musicians and probably a lot smarter than a good amount of people on this board, including me. They have experience, talent, knowledge, and room to play around with new ideas. Korn is the same way.

What I'm trying to say here is, don't judge and album before you've heard it. You might end up liking it and having to eat your own words. I don't care how cool you are, you can't play off eating your own words. I've ate my own words plenty of time, and you know what? Words taste terrible, like a bad bag of mushrooms.

kaiten wrote:Not really, that song + the list of collaborative artists lets me know that its an over the hill rock band's attempt to jump on the brostep bandwagon. If that isn't obvious to you then you really don't know that much about Dubstep.

-T

Toric wrote:Words taste terrible, like a bad bag of mushrooms.

Myself, i just studied theory on my own, it isnt "for" anything. it makes perfect sense to me so i like it. Took it in high school and easily got perfect scores. Studied business in college, but took jazz theory and jazz improv on guitar for electives because the faculty at my school was so good. Just great education, playing, insight, fun. nowadays i don't exactly study but i appreciate it. i play jazz charts and explore new ways to solo them. you know, the type of shit guitar players just sort of do. jam with friends, sit in on gigs and recording sessions. That's all.

n i got mad respect for any act that has made a name for itself on a scene. It's hard fuckin work, as i've been finding out. I still believe though, that in music scenes vibes almost always trump theoretical content. even in jazz.

-[2]DAY_- wrote:

Toric wrote:Words taste terrible, like a bad bag of mushrooms.

especially in jazz.

fixed, since Jazz is all about mistakes.

I get what you are saying completely. What I'm saying is once you go further down the rabbit hole, you start to find out that all of those vibes have a formula. You can actually make someone feel a certain way if you know how to apply your theory knowledge to your tracks!

Just some food for though. Theory isn't completely worthless to and "Artist".

And props on the mad respect. I know what you're talkin' bout. ;P

It's really a full time job trying to get your name out there. I think it stays a full time job until you have enough money to pay a manager, or you get a label who provides a GOOD manager for you (Most don't).

-T

tbh i'm with you on all of this..... i can be caught some days ranting about the importance of theory. A lot of people decide to make tunes without having any conscious artistic urge.... and i guess thats what it boils down to for me.. Fair enough if you haven't got a clue about keys, voicings, ii V's, etc. but if you don't have the vision to create a particular composition, and you're just slapping together sounds... why should it be taken seriously

-[2]DAY_- wrote:tbh i'm with you on all of this..... i can be caught some days ranting about the importance of theory. A lot of people decide to make tunes without having any conscious artistic urge.... and i guess thats what it boils down to for me.. Fair enough if you haven't got a clue about keys, voicings, ii V's, etc. but if you don't have the vision to create a particular composition, and you're just slapping together sounds... why should it be taken seriously

Because as much as we don't want to, you have to look at the broad picture. The world needs those bands who just slap things together, or else the lot of the buggers would be bored and never listen to music. They're a necessary evil if you want to put it that way.



-T

kaiten wrote:
Not really, that song + the list of collaborative artists lets me know that its an over the hill rock band's attempt to jump on the brostep bandwagon. If that isn't obvious to you then you really don't know that much about Dubstep.

Toric wrote:You're their Manager then? They told you to not contact Mala?

Or could it be that Mala decided not to do the album because he didn't like the deal.

wait, you know something? they asked mala to be on the album but he rejected because he's all about the money?

gergbot wrote:

Toric wrote:You're their Manager then? They told you to not contact Mala?

Or could it be that Mala decided not to do the album because he didn't like the deal.

wait, you know something? they asked mala to be on the album but he rejected because he's all about the money?

I haven't mentioned anything about money. In the music business, everything is about the contract you have to sign. That's it. Period.

-T

This is pure craps.....Just get it
Dubstep, Brostep, 2Step, Future Garage....They all get hard on it now
Since when benny benassi is doing ...step things, why is he doing a Blake remix and looks so fuckin idiot at same time
Looks like he's gonna shit into his pant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuGgItDo5_0

Just saying, but this aint good news at all. Not good at all
This is a robbery, and people (i mean The Mass) will again get wrong education
In France, people see Dubstep as just and only Hard Stuffs
If its not Excision or Reso, they dont care. And guess what? This is promoters faults
They never ever bring other sides of the music, so what happend?
No one comes to see Headhunter
No one comes to see Ramadanman or Ben UFO
But bring Skrillex every weekend, venue will be packed
Promoters have a purpose that should go over the money or tickets sold out shits /
I dont see mine as giving what people wants, this is populism
I want to promote new and good and experimental music (when most of cases its not experimental at all)
So yeah

Dont worry, all over they will all like this...And sayin that THIS kind of collab will bring people into our music
Its soooooooo wrong !!!! Really this is Pure Craps
Im 31, i grew up into HipHop and this look exactly the same !! Its fuckin Robbery!!!!
Where were they all when DMZ was unknown??

Shark Season Open

aloajudge wrote:This is pure craps.....Just get it
Dubstep, Brostep, 2Step, Future Garage....They all get hard on it now
Since when benny benassi is doing ...step things, why is he doing a Blake remix and looks so fuckin idiot at same time
Looks like he's gonna shit into his pant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuGgItDo5_0

Just saying, but this aint good news at all. Not good at all
This is a robbery, and people (i mean The Mass) will again get wrong education
In France, people see Dubstep as just and only Hard Stuffs
If its not Excision or Reso, they dont care. And guess what? This is promoters faults
They never ever bring other sides of the music, so what happend?
No one comes to see Headhunter
No one comes to see Ramadanman or Ben UFO
But bring Skrillex every weekend, venue will be packed
Promoters have a purpose that should go over the money or tickets sold out shits /
I dont see mine as giving what people wants, this is populism
I want to promote new and good and experimental music (when most of cases its not experimental at all)
So yeah

Dont worry, all over they will all like this...And sayin that THIS kind of collab will bring people into our music
Its soooooooo wrong !!!! Really this is Pure Craps
Im 31, i grew up into HipHop and this look exactly the same !! Its fuckin Robbery!!!!
Where were they all when DMZ was unknown??

Shark Season Open

Toric wrote:

gergbot wrote:

Toric wrote:You're their Manager then? They told you to not contact Mala?

Or could it be that Mala decided not to do the album because he didn't like the deal.

wait, you know something? they asked mala to be on the album but he rejected because he's all about the money?

I haven't mentioned anything about money. In the music business, everything is about the contract you have to sign. That's it. Period.

-T

so what did you mean?

-[2]DAY_- is wise