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apmje wrote:Korn are the next Burial.
Aye, because they pretty much put the bass back in to metal I'm quite interested.. I just hope it's good!Genevieve wrote:What Korn was doing was going on since the mid '80s in the Los Angeles area. It's what a lot of people were calling 'funk rock' or 'funk metal'. Faith No More did it before them (and that's what Korn basically was, a poor appropriation of Faith No More). None of those bands did anything remarkably different.Brian Oblivion wrote:they spearheaded nu metal along with the Def Tones which brought hip hop and thrash traits together and ushered in a new era. I hate nu metal, I hate the term and I hate most of the music, Ill always be a Pantera fan, Nne Inch Nails etc, I cant deal with this Linkin Park bullshit music, but like it or not Korn came with something new and it blew up and set the tone for a million and one rip off artists. SKrillex isnt doing anything new, he hasnt changed anything.
Rapping, slapped basslines, mostly focused on groove and rhythm and it was done in '89.
The metal heads called it a poor appropriation of metal and said that it shouldn't even be called metal (which I tend to agree with, not that it matters). You know, for kids, for the masses, no skill, etc. Pretty much the exact same thing people are saying about brostep musicians and the fans of the style responded to it like fans of brostep do "get with the times, it's a progressio of metal.. etc".
no it wasnt, music press were still calling that style of metal thrash metal right through the best part of the 90s, I never seen anyone call it groove metal or post thrash in that time period, everyone I knew, every magazine I read, every interview on mtv etc all called it thrash metal.Genevieve wrote: None of those bands are thrash metal. Thrash metal was declared dead by the '90s. This is the stuff people call 'groove metal' or 'post-thrash', which is considered a huuuuuuge influence on Korn and the like. Turning the guitar into more of a rhythmic instrument rather than a lead. A lot of Pantera riffs were straight up ripped off on the first Korn record.
I know Korn took a big influence from Faith No More and Mr Bungle but their music was quite far removed from it. When Korn released their first album I got it right away and when I lent it to my friends who were big Faith No More and Pantera fans none of them really got it, it was far removed from both those styles of music. Funk Metal is a term I did hear a fair amount back then to discribe people like Faith and the Peppers but I never heard that term applied to Korn and the Def Tones, Korn and Adrenaline were the first wave of the nu metal thing, thats when that term started popping up everywhere. Sure you can look back and say elements of it were done before, but not in the same way. You can drag tunes out of the early 90s that sound a lot like Dubstep, but they didnt change anything, they wernt a movement in themselves, Dubstep as a genre of music wasnt coined to describe a movement created on the back of a Skrillex album, hes like the Slipknot of Dubstep, some kind of abortion of an afterthought.Genevieve wrote: What Korn was doing was going on since the mid '80s in the Los Angeles area. It's what a lot of people were calling 'funk rock' or 'funk metal'. Faith No More did it before them (and that's what Korn basically was, a poor appropriation of Faith No More). None of those bands did anything remarkably different.
Rapping, slapped basslines, mostly focused on groove and rhythm and it was done in '89.
The metal heads called it a poor appropriation of metal and said that it shouldn't even be called metal (which I tend to agree with, not that it matters). You know, for kids, for the masses, no skill, etc. Pretty much the exact same thing people are saying about brostep musicians and the fans of the style responded to it like fans of brostep do "get with the times, it's a progressio of metal.. etc".
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Slipknot are actually talented though (well, the guitarists and DJ are at least)Brian Oblivion wrote:Dubstep as a genre of music wasnt coined to describe a movement created on the back of a Skrillex album, hes like the Slipknot of Dubstep, some kind of abortion of an afterthought.
Im not saying what Korn did was a good thing for metal, but it was significant in terms of its impact.
to be fair they did have a fairly significant impact on the metal sceneGenevieve wrote:No they didn't, they're the '90s rock equivalent of Skrillex.Brian Oblivion wrote:they basically reinvented metal when they came out
Pantera were never known as Thrash Metal they were just a straight out balls to the wall heavy metal bandBrian Oblivion wrote: no it wasnt, music press were still calling that style of metal thrash metal right through the best part of the 90s, I never seen anyone call it groove metal or post thrash in that time period, everyone I knew, every magazine I read, every interview on mtv etc all called it thrash metal.
the guy bashing the oil drum with the baseball bat actually ran the whole showtest recordings wrote:Slipknot are actually talented though (well, the guitarists and DJ are at least)Brian Oblivion wrote:Dubstep as a genre of music wasnt coined to describe a movement created on the back of a Skrillex album, hes like the Slipknot of Dubstep, some kind of abortion of an afterthought.
Im not saying what Korn did was a good thing for metal, but it was significant in terms of its impact.
Mt Eden?Raggles wrote:Lets try and guess who the 7 dubstep producers are that helped them.
Skrillex
Rusko
Doctor P
Borgore
Cookie Monsta
hmmm...
if I had a £ for every time a magazine, radio or tv reviewer/interviewer called Pantera a trash metal band during the 90s Id never have to work again. Maybe to a purist thrash metal as a term only applies to the original 80s sound but I can tell you with certainty that Pantera along with Sepultura etc were considered thrash by a great many people. Not that any of the terms really changes my previous points however you want to classify them, personally I dont really care what people want to label them as, they were certainly a distinctly different style of metal to Korn, Deftones, Coal Chamber, Hed Pe, Incubus, the Limp twats and the rest of the stuff that came along with that wave. Korn were instrumental in that movement and it redefined what metal was about for a whole generation.capo ultra wrote:Pantera were never known as Thrash Metal they were just a straight out balls to the wall heavy metal bandBrian Oblivion wrote: no it wasnt, music press were still calling that style of metal thrash metal right through the best part of the 90s, I never seen anyone call it groove metal or post thrash in that time period, everyone I knew, every magazine I read, every interview on mtv etc all called it thrash metal.
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I think you are getting confused, the band would baulk at the suggestion that they were a thrash band, you might find the odd misinformed journo comment if you search hard enough but on the whole, neverBrian Oblivion wrote:if I had a £ for every time a magazine, radio or tv reviewer/interviewer called Pantera a trash metal band during the 90s Id never have to work again. Maybe to a purist thrash metal as a term only applies to the original 80s sound but I can tell you with certainty that Pantera along with Sepultura etc were considered thrash by a great many people. Not that any of the terms really changes my previous points however you want to classify them, personally I dont really care what people want to label them as, they were certainly a distinctly different style of metal to Korn, Deftones, Coal Chamber, Hed Pe, Incubus, the Limp twats and the rest of the stuff that came along with that wave. Korn were instrumental in that movement and it redefined what metal was about for a whole generation.capo ultra wrote:Pantera were never known as Thrash Metal they were just a straight out balls to the wall heavy metal bandBrian Oblivion wrote: no it wasnt, music press were still calling that style of metal thrash metal right through the best part of the 90s, I never seen anyone call it groove metal or post thrash in that time period, everyone I knew, every magazine I read, every interview on mtv etc all called it thrash metal.
people have been saying that since 2009 and they were right all alongLACE wrote:Alright..you know what? This is getting out of hand.