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I'm a massive hypocrite when it comes to presets. I always tell other people it's fine to use them and that loads of top producers use 'em. It's a great way of saving some time and cutting down to actually writing some melodies and having some fun...but I still rarely use them. I'm just one of these people that has to make as much of something myself or I don't really feel it's mine. Not just with music it's the same with everything.

Something I seriously need to get over IMO.

I`ll use a preset in a totally different way to every one here.
So then why would using a preset be an issue?
Brutal Electro I can understand.

Electric_Head wrote:I`ll use a preset in a totally different way to every one here.
So then why would using a preset be an issue?
Brutal Electro I can understand.

Brutal Electro is a good example. People recognize it and are scornful towards it. It gets overused and just becomes annoying. Not so much of a big deal with pads and stuff like that though.

ToxicBass wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:I`ll use a preset in a totally different way to every one here.
So then why would using a preset be an issue?
Brutal Electro I can understand.

Brutal Electro is a good example. People recognize it and are scornful towards it. It gets overused and just becomes annoying. Not so much of a big deal with pads and stuff like that though.

my point exactly

not only that
If I use Brutal Electro, you wouldn`t know.

Electric_Head wrote:

ToxicBass wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:I`ll use a preset in a totally different way to every one here.
So then why would using a preset be an issue?
Brutal Electro I can understand.

Brutal Electro is a good example. People recognize it and are scornful towards it. It gets overused and just becomes annoying. Not so much of a big deal with pads and stuff like that though.

my point exactly

not only that
If I use Brutal Electro, you wouldn`t know.

I don't think it's an issue if you just use it as a platform sound and then modify it beyond belief if that's what you're getting at.

pretty much

At the end of the day, 99% of people listening to your music will not recognise that you're using presets. I mean, I didn't even pick up on the most blatant use of Brutal Electro in D Double's Street Fighter until it was pointed out.

If you're happy with it, do it, no one else will care. Generally I like using a mix, I synthesis all my basses and most of my leads, but pads/stabs/drums are all mostly presets/samples.

If it sounds good huh??

Reason has a seagull caw that I hear being used everywhere.
No one else notices it.
I think it boils down to personal production integrity.
I would never wash a preset that was recognized.

nowaysj wrote:If you feel like a big fat phony maybe you are? No matter the degree of worldly success in music, you're still doing it for yourself. If you're unhappy with what you are doing, try to do that which makes you happy.

Just consider, though, as other people say, well established producers use presets all the time. Whether that informs your decision is, like everything else, up to you.

correct answer!

It's odd that people get all ratty about preset usage. Even though most of the people who do sample their parents record collections..

Electric_Head wrote:

jrisreal wrote:Not really bad, but I would rather make my own sounds from scratch just to feel better about myself.

come on dude

what? presets aint a bad thing in most cases. I'm just saying, I don't like using them myself.

I mean it's really not that hard to make sounds, just twist random knobs and bam there's a sound

I use them.. but worry whether people might notice lol

Electric_Head wrote:

jrisreal wrote:Not really bad, but I would rather make my own sounds from scratch just to feel better about myself.

come on dude

If he doesn't make his own then he crys him self to sleep iv seen it

when i use a preset ill very often mix it in a special way...

its just something that i do naturally...

like alter its tonality within the mix...

i also like to start from presets when i make patches.. i think its a great exercise and teaches u lots.

jrisreal wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:

jrisreal wrote:Not really bad, but I would rather make my own sounds from scratch just to feel better about myself.

come on dude

what? presets aint a bad thing in most cases. I'm just saying, I don't like using them myself.

Sorry, your statement just seemed to be a general statement about feeling better about yourself because you don`t use presets.
You know, sort of saying the rest of us plebs using them just really feel bad about ourselves on a daily basis.

Maybe I read into that though.