Whats next?

[Teknicyde]

my prediction for "uk bass" it'll go housey for a few years then the majority will get bored of that and move back to deeper darker styles

but well, the whole time there'll still be a core of dubsteppers, just like theres still a garage core/jungle core around now

What do you mean by housey?

And yeah, the core will always be here, i said that in my original post, but eventually another genre is going to become the focus of EDM.

[kaiten]

Yeah, brostep is sure to kill itself, and I guess I would have to agree that the influx of new fans of the real world of dubstep is a good thing because of the turn offs of brostep. But in the end I can't help but get frustrated when certain artists are called dubstep (Skrillex, Cookiemonsta, Borgore...) and then people define the entire genre by artists like that, its truly sickening. But that can all be accredited to ignorance I assume..

I feel ya on that, only thing that we can do is introduce others to the good stuff, and if they are of like mind then they'll agree.

You guys just cant cope without arguing over bro and deep can you?

i ask a question thats not even about dubstep, doesnt even remotely conern dubstep, and within 4 posts, someone is keywording it up saying how brostep is all the problem...

I didnt ask what the problem was, if you wanna moan about brostep, stop, get out of my thread. I want to hear about genres and artists working outside of dubstep. not hear you people moan.

Gotta be honest, don't see any brostep moaning in this thread.

[kaiten]

And yeah, the core will always be here, i said that in my original post, but eventually another genre is going to become the focus of EDM.

Trance and House are the focus of EDM, and always will be.

[hutyluty]

by housey, i mean the kind of stuff in the house forum here- basically the 130ish tempo stuff coming out, including boddika, hackman, joy orbison, new pangaea and pearson sound etc

i dont really count brostep as part of the "continuum" of uk bass which is around, its more something which outsiders to the scene have jumped on, not people originally oriented with dance music.

it goes in cycles in my mind and blackdown i think it was described it best

The cyclical relationship between ownership and definition that drives the nuum…

1. Distant from the mainstream music industry, nuum members find a defined genre they like (often an overseas one) - but don’t own - and adopt it.

2. The process changes from adoption to reproduction of their own versions of the genre – accurately or inaccurately. This imprecise mutations causes new variants and at this time definition is low i.e. the sound is undefined and the rate of mutation is high. This is the “Wot do U Call It?” moment i.e. jungle ‘93, UK garage ’95, dubstep ‘01, grime ‘02, UK funky ‘07… dubbage in 2010?

3. As more and more mutations appear they begin to cluster and have higher definition separate from the original, adopted genre and this attracts external interest from early adopters i.e. forward thinking DJs, interested producers, bloggers, on-it A&Rs, club promoters…

4. As the mutations become more defined, they are more easily exported, finding a new audience beyond the core nuum – this process is often driven by a financial and reputation economy. Yet the process of finding a new audience for this newly defined sound also decreases the ownership by the core nuum members as external players take a business or leadership interest. As ownership is fundamental to the original nuum players, they then return to step 1., driving the cycle around once more.

I guess I see the dubbage sound at stage 1 and edging into stage 2, whereas dubstep has gone through 4 in recent times and some of the participants are at stage 1 & 2 now, perhaps even 3. Anyway, enough of my cycles and patterns...

[kaiten]

by housey, i mean the kind of stuff in the house forum here- basically the 130ish tempo stuff coming out, including boddika, hackman, joy orbison, new pangaea and pearson sound etc

i dont really count brostep as part of the "continuum" of uk bass which is around, its more something which outsiders to the scene have jumped on, not people originally oriented with dance music.

it goes in cycles in my mind and blackdown i think it was described it best

The cyclical relationship between ownership and definition that drives the nuum…

1. Distant from the mainstream music industry, nuum members find a defined genre they like (often an overseas one) - but don’t own - and adopt it.

2. The process changes from adoption to reproduction of their own versions of the genre – accurately or inaccurately. This imprecise mutations causes new variants and at this time definition is low i.e. the sound is undefined and the rate of mutation is high. This is the “Wot do U Call It?” moment i.e. jungle ‘93, UK garage ’95, dubstep ‘01, grime ‘02, UK funky ‘07… dubbage in 2010?

3. As more and more mutations appear they begin to cluster and have higher definition separate from the original, adopted genre and this attracts external interest from early adopters i.e. forward thinking DJs, interested producers, bloggers, on-it A&Rs, club promoters…

4. As the mutations become more defined, they are more easily exported, finding a new audience beyond the core nuum – this process is often driven by a financial and reputation economy. Yet the process of finding a new audience for this newly defined sound also decreases the ownership by the core nuum members as external players take a business or leadership interest. As ownership is fundamental to the original nuum players, they then return to step 1., driving the cycle around once more.

I guess I see the dubbage sound at stage 1 and edging into stage 2, whereas dubstep has gone through 4 in recent times and some of the participants are at stage 1 & 2 now, perhaps even 3. Anyway, enough of my cycles and patterns...

Truth.

[Teknicyde]

Yeah, brostep is sure to kill itself, and I guess I would have to agree that the influx of new fans of the real world of dubstep is a good thing because of the turn offs of brostep. But in the end I can't help but get frustrated when certain artists are called dubstep (Skrillex, Cookiemonsta, Borgore...) and then people define the entire genre by artists like that, its truly sickening. But that can all be accredited to ignorance I assume..

I feel ya on that, only thing that we can do is introduce others to the good stuff, and if they are of like mind then they'll agree.

You guys just cant cope without arguing over bro and deep can you?

i ask a question thats not even about dubstep, doesnt even remotely conern dubstep, and within 4 posts, someone is keywording it up saying how brostep is all the problem...

I didnt ask what the problem was, if you wanna moan about brostep, stop, get out of my thread. I want to hear about genres and artists working outside of dubstep. not hear you people moan.

Gotta be honest, don't see any brostep moaning in this thread.

Well you quoted one of the posts right above you, if you missed that... Note how 'in the end they bitch about brostep', and what people define dubstep as and bleh bleh bleh...

Can we have one thread where that stuff doesnt get touched on, and we just leave the dubstepforum subgenre wars out of it?

[Teknicyde]

by housey, i mean the kind of stuff in the house forum here- basically the 130ish tempo stuff coming out, including boddika, hackman, joy orbison, new pangaea and pearson sound etc

This is interesting because it does show a certain tendency in EDM to work in circles, 110-130 even touches into some old Miami territory...

So, if we're working in circles at this point, is there no bpm ranges left that havent been thoroughly explored?

[triggy]

Im comfortable with EDM at the moment, I only really listen to dubstep so am unaware of whats happening with D&B, house, garage etc but feel its branching off in many different ways to please everyone so dont bother me.
A change would certainly be nice, something nice and fresh, spark a new life in EDM.

is there no bpm ranges left that havent been thoroughly explored?

Is there anything above D&B? (I know there is in accoustic music but I mean EDM)

[-[2]DAY_-]

i feel like once you approach 200, everyone's anxious and just interprets it as 100

[Teknicyde]

i feel like once you approach 200, everyone's anxious and just interprets it as 100

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVLZjnmItGU

[_TraX_]

I became a fan of dubstep due to being turned off from brostep. It enlightened me. Now I fight for the deep side.

[fractal]

Damu is what's next!

[Teknicyde]

I became a fan of dubstep due to being turned off from brostep. It enlightened me. Now I fight for the deep side.

This has absolutely nothing to do wtih my question? and good for you, cool story bro, noone cares.

[tatty_b_jangles]

Also, really enjoying the fact that people are making music that doesn't particularly sit in one genre like a lot of Night Slugs stuff, XXXY, Boddika, Loefah, etc... I don't think anyone could claim that their tunes are straight up house, nor straight up dubstep... Pretty exciting times for dance music IMO.

Exactly. I really think given a few years this is going to break into something new completely.

As for dubstep, will it go the way of garage? Will it slowly go back to late 2007 in terms of popularity? Myself, I think it's just going to collapse and the only thing left will be the underground. Maybe out of that something new will grow. Maybe we're seeing it with this sound that Loefah, Rama, Boddika etc are pushing. It can't be said for sure because would have all those guys in Big Apple in 2000 predicted dubstep would be this big? Absolutely not and that's the great thing about music, nobody knows what is going to happen next.

As for what I would like to be next, I'd love a Jungle and Hardcore revival purely because I'm pissed off that I missed it in the early 90's.

[GothamHero]

Fucking Disco revolution.

Every genre having a Disco alternative.

Dubstep at 137 BPM with more progression, more stabs, more chords, more vocals and more groove.

[Teknicyde]

Also, really enjoying the fact that people are making music that doesn't particularly sit in one genre like a lot of Night Slugs stuff, XXXY, Boddika, Loefah, etc... I don't think anyone could claim that their tunes are straight up house, nor straight up dubstep... Pretty exciting times for dance music IMO.

Exactly. I really think given a few years this is going to break into something new completely.

This is what Im asking about, we are NOT trying to speculate on the future of dubstep.

[fluents]

I would like to see EDM evolve into something more similar to a band not as in people playing instruments live, as in no bar phrasing an tempo changes throughout the song. Could make for some interesting listening

[mIrReN]

I' next haha

[Juice Terry]

As for what I would like to be next, I'd love a Jungle and Hardcore revival purely because I'm pissed off that I missed it in the early 90's.

Check out Plastician's Sounds That Speaks Volumes 2011 mix, some of the first 20 minutes of that is straight up rave music...