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Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:35 pm
by vertx
Don't limit your thesis to 'dubstep', go back to the roots of bass in the dance and Jamaican soundsystem culture and follow it through the UK underground to present day - more content and context.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:02 pm
by pdomino
Try and get to speak to those who were there man :)

Also definately a scene, get to one of the parties to experience it being more than weed and bass.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:16 pm
by clifford_-
ntropy wrote:thank you, I will check that out... does it make sense to buy a ticket before or is there no problem to get in?
itd make sense to save a few bob by getting a ticket before hand, but im 90% sure there will be tickets on the door.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:38 pm
by ariosa
10/10 thread would read again
vertx wrote:Don't limit your thesis to 'dubstep', go back to the roots of bass in the dance and Jamaican soundsystem culture and follow it through the UK underground to present day - more content and context.
I think broadening the perspectives too much would make the thesis too generic almost, i would probably stick to a more reasonable timeline, as to highlight the direct influences to the growth in popularity of the music (elements of dnb, jungle, garage, etc.) You could write a whole series of books on how Jamaican music swept into the uk and became a worldwide phenomenon before more modern genres like dubstep even came up.

I do like the idea of focusing on how a single culture like the growth of dubstep in the UK has spawned various circles of following, like someone before said the "religious" types who worship mala or youngsta, compared to the pop culture explosion from brostep, and dubstep influenced pop music, and even the experimental artists in dubstep, who challenge the very elements which dubstep were made popular by, like scuba, james blake, old apparatus, machinedrum, burial, etc..

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:14 pm
by hollow_
groovescientist wrote:Hello everyone,

I will be starting my final thesis in musicology and as a dubstep enthusiast (blogger and DJ) I want to do an ethnography about the scene in London. Ethnography just means that it will be about the perspective of the people within the scene and no overacademic theory behind it...
Possible issues of interest could be for example the deep psychological effect of the bass etc.
Don't have too much to add but have read a bit of stuff theorising electronic music, you've probably come across this but I'll post it anyway, has a chapter I found useful on the psychological effects of bass http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/D ... fWykPssnAC

Good luck with ur thesis.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:16 pm
by 4n general
if ur still looking for people to interview within the Dusbtrp scene then pls hit me up bro. Cotti
message me here
@CottiSumTingNew

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:03 pm
by ntropy
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Don't have too much to add but have read a bit of stuff theorising electronic music, you've probably come across this but I'll post it anyway, has a chapter I found useful on the psychological effects of bass http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/D ... fWykPssnAC

Good luck with ur thesis.[/quote]

i did read A LOT but I missed that. Thank you for the tip...I have to check it out!


I also think it would be way too much information if I would include all the historical developments although its really interesting...but that would create 10 books...my focus will be dubstep...anyway there will be short chapter about the sound system culture, drum&bass, jungle, 2stepGarage and all that...
I totally rely on the fact that the interviews will give me a focus...

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:43 pm
by ariosa
your challenge with interviewing will be bringing up questions which are pertinent and will get a lot of technical information out of the artists. so many dubstep artist interviews i see are the same few questions and answers, and are usually made for promotions sake, not too much actual delving into the topic of the music itself. i suppose if that's what you're majoring in you could come up with some very pertinent and directed questions.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:42 pm
by ntropy
I never ask boring questions...even if I would....I think everything which is said in an interview is useful. and music ist not just music. so its not about collecting the most interesting answers.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:57 pm
by clifford_-
4n general wrote:if ur still looking for people to interview within the Dusbtrp scene then pls hit me up bro. Cotti
message me here
@CottiSumTingNew

i strongly suggest listening to this man.

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:22 pm
by ntropy
clifford_- wrote:
4n general wrote:if ur still looking for people to interview within the Dusbtrp scene then pls hit me up bro. Cotti
message me here
@CottiSumTingNew

i strongly suggest listening to this man.
For sure, well meet next week...

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:10 pm
by cyrusfx
Wow, this seems like a worthwhile intellectual endeavor, and quite a serious undertaking. In college I took a bunch of history of music courses (the History of Electronic Dance Music was the only class I got an A+ in, ever) and it occurred to me that it will be important to document the progress/evolution of electronic music, just as it was for rock n roll, jazz and classical music.. so the end result is is some kind of permanent record of the several software-motivated innovations that have been revolutionizing modern music culture past 5-10 years or so.

Of course I'm speaking well out of the realms of your original topic, "dubstep," but my point is, please do update us when the thesis comes out. I am in the process of setting up a website that documents the evolution of dance music (from disco to dubstep) and would be most interested to read the final results of your research.. Thanks and good luck!

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:47 pm
by ntropy
Yes, I will update you for sure as soon as the first "results" have been worked out.

I know that I cant really reduce my research on dubstep, not just because of the word and its meanings. Maybe I wll change dubstep into bassmusic so I´´m able to include all the new house and futureGarage influenced stuff... The question is: Does dubstep in its first meaning (dark room, dark sounds, pure energy) still exist?

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:33 pm
by clifford_-
ntropy wrote: The question is: Does dubstep in its first meaning (dark room, dark sounds, pure energy) still exist?

In some places, yes. but the only way to find out, is by going to them!

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:12 pm
by ntropy
No worries, I will check out as much nights as i am able to :-)

by the way: what`s the Cable Club like? I think I will go there on friday: Basslaced Gets Darker at Cable

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:20 pm
by 4n general
ntropy wrote:No worries, I will check out as much nights as i am able to :-)

by the way: what`s the Cable Club like? I think I will go there on friday: Basslaced Gets Darker at Cable
:)

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:02 pm
by ntropy
BIG UP Cotti! for meeting me...we talked for nearly 2 hours, great guy! Check out the his birthday bash at East Village on wednesday!

so, if somebody has any recommendations for record shops I should check, people I should talk to or, just let me know

I would also like to speak with "normal" people, so if anybody who lives in London interested in chatting about dubstep and co. I really would appreciate this...We could meet somewhere in London or at a dubstep night, whatever
I also want to cover the perspective of reception! write a pm... (my experience is that it doesn´t make sense to talk in a club, because everyone wants to listen and dance...)

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:55 pm
by ntropy
anybody out there??

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:53 am
by ntropy
So if anybody is interested in sharing experiences or has a lot to say about the music and the scene of dubstep, feel free to contact me...don´t hesitate, it isn´t about academic talk, I just want to graps all the different perspectives that are existing out there ;-)

Re: research about dubstep/bassmusic scene

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:27 pm
by ntropy
Hello people,

I´ve made a lot of progress so far and did some really interesting interviews with Goth Trad, Martin Clark aka Blackdown, El-B, Pinch, Cotti, Promise One (watch out for this guy!) and some other people...

I still need some interviewees so let me know if you would be up for a chat/interview/beer... don´t hesitate to contact me, I´m a polite guy, mostly .-)