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legend4ry wrote:I tried a 3/4 tune last night cause of this thread.

I couldn't get my head around it .

Same.
But I worked out for me. First non 4/4 time signature I've ever gotten my head around

I just started something in 5/8 - seems much easier to do than 3/4?

explain this 3/4 time measure in a simpler form.

oprs wrote:explain this 3/4 time measure in a simpler form.

Wikipedia wrote:The time signature (also known as meter signature) is a notational convention used in Western musical notation to specify how many beats are in each measure and which note value constitutes one beat.


An example
34: A simple signature, comprising three quarter notes. It has a basic feel of:
one two three (as in a waltz)
Each quarter note might comprise two eighth-notes (quavers) giving a total of six such notes, but it still retains that three-in-a-bar "feel":
one and two and three and

So instead of it being..

| - - - - | - - - - | - - - - | - - - - |

Its.

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P.S - Man EP; that tune is incredible, so is the video.

legend4ry wrote:

oprs wrote:explain this 3/4 time measure in a simpler form.

Wikipedia wrote:The time signature (also known as meter signature) is a notational convention used in Western musical notation to specify how many beats are in each measure and which note value constitutes one beat.


An example
34: A simple signature, comprising three quarter notes. It has a basic feel of:
one two three (as in a waltz)
Each quarter note might comprise two eighth-notes (quavers) giving a total of six such notes, but it still retains that three-in-a-bar "feel":
one and two and three and

So instead of it being..

| - - - - | - - - - | - - - - | - - - - |

Its.

| - - - | - - - | - - - | - - - |

mindfrucked.
so first one is a 4 to the floor 16 bar, the 3/4 is 3 to the knee 12 bar?

^ Precisely.

Instead of working in 4s you work in 3s.

thanks man, gonna go tinker.

try harder time signatures like 9/8, 6/16, 12/8, 6/4 that is when it gets difficult to come up with a nice rhythm without sounding "out of sync" haven't made any tunes out of 4/4 (yet)

3/4:

ambinate wrote:so the tunes i'm about to post are more like 6/8 than 3/4 (at least that's how i count them), but it's sort of similar...

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biggup. Can You Swim is def 3/4.

Did one on a dnb tip as well:

Soundcloud

In my experience, 3/4 has been super awkward for "dance" music. I couldn't imagine anyone really getting down to it unless they were waltzing or something

But there is some really good stuff out there, especially on the ambient/chill side of EDM, some 5/4 bits. Outside of EDM is where the fun really is when it comes to time sig stuff tho

legend4ry wrote: So instead of it being..

| - - - - | - - - - | - - - - | - - - - |

Its.

| - - - | - - - | - - - | - - - |

Thats 1/4 note triplets

it goes
| - - - - | - - - - | - - - - |

If you think in counting beats instead of going 12341234..., you go 123123...
Like a waltz.

You got the numbering right but your diagram is still wrong. 3/4 has 3 beats per bar at 1/4 note per beat.

Perhaps you should try to play 6/8 for dance music. There are some awesome jazz tunes in 6/8. A friend of mine has made some really good electronic music in 6/8. It's double 3/4, same tempo whatever that may be, but you are counting 6 eighth notes per bar rather than 3 quarter notes.

mks wrote:You got the numbering right but your diagram is still wrong. 3/4 has 3 beats per bar at 1/4 note per beat.

Thats what my diagram is

What should it look like then?

3za wrote:

mks wrote:You got the numbering right but your diagram is still wrong. 3/4 has 3 beats per bar at 1/4 note per beat.

Thats what my diagram is

What should it look like then?

Per your example:

|---|---|---|

3 quarter notes per bar.

EZ

mks wrote:

3za wrote:

mks wrote:You got the numbering right but your diagram is still wrong. 3/4 has 3 beats per bar at 1/4 note per beat.

Thats what my diagram is

What should it look like then?

Per your example:

|---|---|---|

3 quarter notes per bar.

EZ

But my dashes were 1/16 notes 4*1/16notes = 1/4 note. 3 of them in a bar

The lines were just to break it up...

Well then you are talking and showing examples in a different code, because if most musicians saw that, they would think two parallel lines equals a bar, and the amount of notes in that bar would correlate to the time signature. More like something like this:

mks wrote:Well then you are talking and showing examples in a different code, because if most musicians saw that, they would think two parallel lines equals a bar, and the amount of notes in that bar would correlate to the time signature. More like something like this:

I can read music (haven't in about 5 years)

I just used that format, as thats what Legend4ry used

3 beats per bar/measure. quarter note gets the beat

12/8 crops up in dance music from time to time, basically because rather than go
oo ka ti ka oo ka ti ka oo ka ti ka oo ka ti ka
a bar of 12/8 goes
oon ti ti oon ti ti oon ti ti oon ti ti
so it mixes alright with 4/4 tunes. It's essentially the same thing as writing 4/4 in triplets. I think there's a Mala tune that's in 12/8, and the classic 'clownstep' rhythm a la Bodyrock is.

3/4 is a lot further from 4/4 rhythmically because the bar is entirely structured around three main beats rather than four, so it doesn't mix easily with existing 4/4 stuff and involves quite a different way of dancing (ie waltzing or something similar) which most people haven't internalized like they have done with 4/4.

Btw, I'd say that 3/4 dubstep is a contradiction in terms, because for me pretty much the only hard and fast defining characteristic of dubstep is that it's dance music written to be played out in clubs and once you say "sod mixability, I'm writing a tune in 11/8" you've abandoned that and you're writing something else. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, obviously...